British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.

[ferryman]

Are you sure about that? Doesn't the CPS consider "public interest" before deciding on prosecution?

Yes, it does.

[Benice]

So this is an example of clutching at any AVAILABLE STRAW .

No - it is evidence that nurseries/creches are not immune from paedaphiles.  That is the evidence you were asking for isn't it?

[sadie]

No - it is evidence that nurseries/creches are not immune from paedaphiles.  That is the evidence you were asking for isn't it?

Did you miss it Stephen?

Paedophiles in nurseries/ cheches :

Vanessa George  ... Do you remember her?

[faithlilly]

Oh I don't know - get the Daily Mail behind it and all things are possible   

Or even Rebecca Brookes !!!

[Alice Purjorick]

unfortunately far more than those hurt by being left alone for a short period

Would you like to share the full SP on that with the forum?

[Mr Gray]

Would you like to share the full SP on that with the forum?

I don't know of one child in the uk being harmed having been left home alone for a short..or even long...period...
several sexual assaults in nurseries..by childminders and of course fatal accidents

[Alice Purjorick]

I don't know of one child in the uk being harmed having been left home alone for a short..or even long...period...
several sexual assaults in nurseries..by childminders and of course fatal accidents

Your saying "I don't know of......" is hardly a definitive statement.
I was rather hoping you would share with the forum some reliable data rather than just your opinion.

[sadie]

Your saying "I don't know of......" is hardly a definitive statement.
I was rather hoping you would share with the forum some reliable data rather than just your opinion.

I don't know of one child in the uk being harmed having been left home alone for a short..or even long...period...
several sexual assaults in nurseries..by childminders and of course fatal accidents

You cant prove a negative Alice

If it didn't happen, then there will be no reports on it

Will there?

[faithlilly]

You cant prove a negative Alice

If it didn't happen, then there will be no reports on it

Will there?

Shall we start here sadie http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4945181/Mother-jailed-over-home-alone-daughters-fire-death.html and work our way forward ?

[Eleanor]

Shall we start here sadie http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4945181/Mother-jailed-over-home-alone-daughters-fire-death.html and work our way forward ?

More than three hours.  And not the first time she had been called to account.

Interesting about the phone pings.  She was outside, and not where she said she was.

[faithlilly]

More than three hours.  And not the first time she had been called to account.

Interesting about the phone pings.  She was outside, and not where she said she was.

Are we changing the goalposts then ?

So how quickly do you think it would take for a fire to kill a child ?

[Mr Gray]

Shall we start here sadie http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4945181/Mother-jailed-over-home-alone-daughters-fire-death.html and work our way forward ?

yes lets start here...one incident so far...5 years ago...child left for 3 hours...good start..next

[faithlilly]

yes lets start here...one incident so far...5 years ago...child left for 3 hours...good start..next

So if a fire had started at the front of apartment 5a, an electrical fault say, how long do you think it would have been before the flames spread to where the McCanns and their friends could see them and how likely do you think it would have been that the children could have been saved at that point ?

[Eleanor]

Are we changing the goalposts then ?

So how quickly do you think it would take for a fire to kill a child ?

She was charged with Neglect, and was miles away from home for more than three hours.

[Eleanor]

So if a fire had started at the front of apartment 5a, an electrical fault say, how long do you think it would have been before the flames spread to where the McCanns and their friends could see them and how likely do you think it would have been that the children could have been saved at that point ?

Safety Standards re Electric wiring in holiday accommodation.