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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #300 on: October 22, 2015, 08:48:31 PM »
Because it is nowt to do with them?

anyone with even basic degree level understanding of body language can see that he is hiding a big secret...wouldn't surprise me if SY are just clearing the decks and waiting to pounce...they would need to get a watertight case first as Portugal are sticklers for proper evidence

stephen25000

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Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #301 on: October 22, 2015, 08:51:35 PM »
anyone with even basic degree level understanding of body language can see that he is hiding a big secret...wouldn't surprise me if SY are just clearing the decks and waiting to pounce...they would need to get a watertight case first as Portugal are sticklers for proper evidence

That has been said of others as well.

Now what did John Stalker say ? &%+((£

Offline pegasus

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #302 on: October 22, 2015, 08:58:40 PM »
How many people have to be mistaken for the word of a person, who made at least 17 alterations (not counting lies)
to his own statement, to be the truth? Please bear in mind RM's first recollection of the evening of the 3rd was that he was with his girlfriend.
Actually only three people attended the confrontation to accuse RM.
SB didn't - because she realised she was wrong and in fact it wasn't RM she saw.
DP didn't (and he had actually spoken with the man) because no way was he anywhere near sure it was RM.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2015, 09:05:26 PM by pegasus »

Offline misty

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #303 on: October 22, 2015, 09:01:50 PM »
All of it.

As it stands, you are more than implying that Murat was involved in Madeleine's disappearance.

Name: ROBERT JAMES QUERIOL EVELEIGH MURAT
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 WITNESS STATEMENT OF ARGUIDO: ROBERT MURAT

Asked if he wanted to respond to the facts that are imputed against him, he responded:
---- Yes, he intends to respond to the questions that are going to be put to him.
---- Despite having British nationality he understands perfectly the Portuguese language both spoken and written therefore the presence of a translator is not necessary in this interview.
---- Asked if he confirms his previous testimony he responded that because on the day the interrogation was conducted he was very tired and does not remember exactly what was said at that time, that is he recalls in general terms what he said, but does not remember the detail of some statements.
---- His previous declarations having been read to him he confirmed having made them, however it is his wish to amend some of affirmations that were made then [at that time] as he had confused some events, in particular in what he said with respect to the dates and times of what happened. He stated events that he said had happened on Wednesday 02 and that now he more calmly recalls them having happened on Thursday and vice versa. There are also other events that he now recalls happened in those two days in particular that he wants to disclose.........

.---- The defendant intended to clarify that on the morning of 02 [May] he did not leave the house by 10:00-10:30, as stated previously but in fact he had met with Sergey Malinca on 02 [May], Wednesday, in the Baptista supermarket, at 10:00, he having arrived 15 to 20 minutes before and accompanied by Michaela whom he had gone to collect at her home in the VW. They talked about the Romigen web site that Sergey was setting up. The meeting lasted about 30 minutes and in the end Sergey left alone with the accused and Michaela having proceeded to Lagos.
---- Asked for what reason he had not previously remembered this meeting, given that he had said previously that that morning he had left the house by 10:00-10:30, he said now that on the date of the first interrogation he was "rattled" and had not remembered this fact.
---- To this point he wants to say that on the day prior to his interrogation he went to bed around 03:00, having up to that time accompanied officers of the PJ, namely Inspector Reis Sxxxxx, who invited him for coffee in the bar Bom Vivant, where they remained until about that hour he being certain that he was woken up at 07:00 when PJ officers went to his house. So he had slept for only about 4 hours and was therefore very tired...............


 
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 WITNESS STATEMENT OF ARGUIDO: ROBERT MURAT

......... Contrary to what he said originally, he was not with MICHAELA when she went to a Jehovah witnesses' meeting between 20:00 and 22:00, which is why he didn't phone her, because she turns her phone off.


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Pegasus believes several people were mistaken. I believe RM's memory lapses to be more than questionable in relation to Pegasus's assertion.

This does not implicate RM in Madeleine's disappearance. It merely required much more detailed scrutiny than the PJ ever gave it, to determine the reasons behind the "mistakes".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #304 on: October 22, 2015, 09:09:18 PM »
That has been said of others as well.

Now what did John Stalker say ? &%+((£

I found stalker quite creepy....surely that cannot be his real name...do we know if he has been interviewed by Grange

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #305 on: October 22, 2015, 09:11:13 PM »
anyone with even basic degree level understanding of body language can see that he is hiding a big secret...wouldn't surprise me if SY are just clearing the decks and waiting to pounce...they would need to get a watertight case first as Portugal are sticklers for proper evidence

Same answer again. It is nowt to do with the MPS.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline pegasus

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #306 on: October 22, 2015, 09:12:36 PM »
If I attended a confrontation to identify and potentially ruin a man, I would make damn sure out of basic fairness that anything which might have even slightly impeded my cognitive skills that night got written down in black and white on my confrontation statement.

stephen25000

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Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #307 on: October 22, 2015, 09:13:28 PM »
I found stalker quite creepy....surely that cannot be his real name...do we know if he has been interviewed by Grange

He was a policeman dave . 8**8:/:

Offline misty

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #308 on: October 22, 2015, 09:16:25 PM »
If I attended a confrontation to identify and potentially ruin a man, I would make damn sure out of basic fairness that anything which might have even slightly impeded my cognitive skills that night got written down in black and white on my confrontation statement.

The UK has ID parades rather than face-to-face confrontations, doesn't it? Were the 3 Tapas members aware of what was going to happen?
Why do you suppose the PJ never had the Smiths  & GM back for a similar confrontation?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #309 on: October 22, 2015, 09:17:08 PM »
He was a policeman dave . 8**8:/:
I thought he sold security shutters ...double glazing and life insurance

Offline Eleanor

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #310 on: October 22, 2015, 09:19:26 PM »

Whatever else Stalker said, he said he believed that Madeleine had been Abducted.

Offline pegasus

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #311 on: October 22, 2015, 09:21:47 PM »
anyone with even basic degree level understanding of body language can see that he is hiding a big secret...wouldn't surprise me if SY are just clearing the decks and waiting to pounce...they would need to get a watertight case first as Portugal are sticklers for proper evidence
That's strange, because I have watched several video interviews with this man, and his body language and whole demeanour I find to be extremely straightforward, answering questions directly, and he immediately strikes me as an extremely honest man. Can you give us an example Davel of any man in this case whose body language you rate as highly as that please?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #312 on: October 22, 2015, 09:25:24 PM »
That's strange, because I have watched several video interviews with this man, and his body language and whole demeanour I find to be extremely straightforward, answering questions directly, and he immediately strikes me as an extremely honest man. Can you give us an example Davel of any man in this case whose body language you rate as highly as that please?

he's working the old double bluff or shuffle as it is commonly known

stephen25000

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Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #313 on: October 22, 2015, 09:28:36 PM »
Whatever else Stalker said, he said he believed that Madeleine had been Abducted.

That was his assumption at the time.

I wonder what he thinks now, after all this time and NO TRACE OF ABDUCTION ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Witnesses claimed to have seen Robert Murat the night Maddie disappeared.
« Reply #314 on: October 22, 2015, 09:31:40 PM »
That was his assumption at the time.

I wonder what he thinks now, after all this time and NO TRACE OF ABDUCTION ?

could it be that several high ranking government ministers are involved and there is a cover up taking place....conservative of course