A Thread To Discuss Alfred's Theory in detail.

[Wonderfulspam]

So much quicker than bleaching an apartment, concealing a body, formulating a cunning & devious plan, running round PdL disposing of a body, staging a crime scene, enlisting the help of 3 Prime Ministers & MI6 then spending years of your life being abused by the public - don't you think?

Getting all their friends to lie for them aswell, yeah, heard it all before.

zzzzzz

[Alfred R Jones]

Whilst carrying the toddler he was in the process of abducting, having spent time opening the window & shutters for some reason.

In no hurry then, & Maddie slept through it all.

How do you know Madeleine slept through it all?  Was it you who dunnit then?

[Alfred R Jones]

Yeah we know they are the only realistic points of entrance given the abductor wasn't Zeus using his golden rain trick down the cooker extraction duct.
Did the abductor come through the jemmied shutters; the closed window; the open patio doors; the closed patio doors the locked front door?. If there were forced illegal entry why did the police not believe there was such entry?. Which would narrow it down to coming in through the front door using a key there being no sign of a forced entry.
So the abductor came in through front door using a key, snatched the child and legged it through the front door closing it behind him? That pretty much is your theory then Alf reading between your own lines.
So why did the Portuguese police not believe it and why do The Met say "we have identified a window of opportunity (droll) in which an abduction could have taken place".
Which is not quite your "SY agree with me and say it was an abduction" or whatever.

Piss poor riposte.  Whatever the PJ believed in 2007 is of no interest to me now, in 2014.  Their investigation was headed by someone who couldn't investigate his way out of a paper bag - IMHO.  I'm far more interested in where the current investigation is leading, in who they have interviewed and want to interview and why.  And if you want to labour under the belief that the Met is biding its time until its dawn raids on Rothley time then that is your choice, but I fear you are in for a long, long, long, long wait - I just hope you have the stamina for it, dear Alice.

[stephen25000]

Piss poor riposte.  Whatever the PJ believed in 2007 is of no interest to me now, in 2014.  Their investigation was headed by someone who couldn't investigate his way out of a paper bag - IMHO.  I'm far more interested in where the current investigation is leading, in who they have interviewed and want to interview and why.  And if you want to labour under the belief that the Met is biding its time until its dawn raids on Rothley time then that is your choice, but I fear you are in for a long, long, long, long wait - I just hope you have the stamina for it, dear Alice.

Of course you would say that without mentioning AMaral's name.

Need you be reminded, he was the case coordinator.

As to the current investigation leader, how do you think he would cope with a paper bag ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Here "sceptics" - this pretty much encapsulates my thoughts on the matter -

http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/55163729/Abduction%20Theories

yes, it's from the dreaded "Stop the Myths Wiki" so Kryptonite to some people I realise that, but if you pluck up enough courage perhaps you could have a read and then a have good old scoff and a jeer about it on here afterwards? 

[Alice Purjorick]

Piss poor riposte.  Whatever the PJ believed in 2007 is of no interest to me now, in 2014.  Their investigation was headed by someone who couldn't investigate his way out of a paper bag - IMHO.  I'm far more interested in where the current investigation is leading, in who they have interviewed and want to interview and why.  And if you want to labour under the belief that the Met is biding its time until its dawn raids on Rothley time then that is your choice, but I fear you are in for a long, long, long, long wait - I just hope you have the stamina for it, dear Alice.

Stop talking drivel Alf. I don't recall ever articulating that view point.
The thread is about your theory, try sticking to the topic instead of going off on one.

[faithlilly]

Of course you would say that without mentioning AMaral's name.

Need you be reminded, he was the case coordinator.

As to the current investigation leader, how do you think he would cope with a paper bag ?

But of course so was Rebelo, the coordinator who requested that a reconstruction be carried out and that the Gaspar statements were sent to him along with analysis by British police of questionnaires completed by both David Payne and his wife. They don't talk about him though. I wonder why ?

[misty]

Of course you would say that without mentioning AMaral's name.

Need you be reminded, he was the case coordinator.

As to the current investigation leader, how do you think he would cope with a paper bag ?

I think the current leader knows if you fill it with water it will leak & disintegrate - rather like Amaral's hypothesis.
Tell us, Stephen, why you think SY want to interview Murat & Co again, when none of them apparently had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance and all were otherwise engaged at the time?

[stephen25000]

I think the current leader knows if you fill it with water it will leak & disintegrate - rather like Amaral's hypothesis.
Tell us, Stephen, why you think SY want to interview Murat & Co again, when none of them apparently had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance and all were otherwise engaged at the time?

Where has accidental death been disproved ?

and why haven't the mccanns and the rest been interviewed by SY ?

Now those are pertinent questions.

[Wonderfulspam]

Here "sceptics" - this pretty much encapsulates my thoughts on the matter -

http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/55163729/Abduction%20Theories

yes, it's from the dreaded "Stop the Myths Wiki" so Kryptonite to some people I realise that, but if you pluck up enough courage perhaps you could have a read and then a have good old scoff and a jeer about it on here afterwards?

'Back (patio) door

'The patio door at the rear was unlocked and used by the McCanns and their friends to enter for child-checks.  There were walls and mature shrubbery which could have provided an intruder with cover so that he could make his way from the road to the apartment door unobserved (as well as hide until ready to make his move).'


No mention of the gate at the top of the stairs.

How extraordinary!

Well, it was closed, as were the curtains, & the patio door.

Unless Kate was lying about that, as opposed to the window & shutters being open, which, by her own good word, she wasn't lying about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WLvnfcl-Zkg#t=1371

[Wonderfulspam]

I think the current leader knows if you fill it with water it will leak & disintegrate - rather like Amaral's hypothesis.
Tell us, Stephen, why you think SY want to interview Murat & Co again, when none of them apparently had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance and all were otherwise engaged at the time?

The PDL kidnapping crew eh, a receptionist, her husband, gardener, property developer, bus driver beggar & burglars, all conspired to abduct Maddie & have kept it a secret for the past 7 years.

Yep, I can go with that.

[faithlilly]

The PDL kidnapping crew eh, a receptionist, her husband, gardener, property developer, bus driver beggar & burglars, all conspired to abduct Maddie & have kept it a secret for the past 7 years.

Yep, I can go with that.

Not to mention the reward of several million pounds that was on offer and that they all resisted !

[misty]

Where has accidental death been disproved ?

and why haven't the mccanns and the rest been interviewed by SY ?

Now those are pertinent questions.

Stop sidestepping questions relating to the abduction theory which is the topic of this thread.
No theory has been proven or disproven yet.
As to questioning the McCanns, are you really as dense as your question?

[misty]

The PDL kidnapping crew eh, a receptionist, her husband, gardener, property developer, bus driver beggar & burglars, all conspired to abduct Maddie & have kept it a secret for the past 7 years.

Yep, I can go with that.

You're getting warmer, that's for sure.

[Wonderfulspam]

Not to mention the reward of several million pounds that was on offer and that they all resisted !

Maddie was worth much more than that, what with her bloodline.

Besides, 'Mr Big Fish Head' would have thrown them all to the dogs.