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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #135 on: February 24, 2015, 07:39:42 PM »
Where DID the dog alert?  In the living room.  According to you the corpse would not have started to emit any sort of odour until after Prout had buried it (conveniently allowing the dog to have failed to alert in the car), so what can we deduce from this?  There never was a corpse in the living room, right?

When did I say that?

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #136 on: February 24, 2015, 07:56:17 PM »
When did I say that?
Did you or did you not write the following:

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She could have been dead for less than hour before he stuck her in the ground, in which case she'd probably still smell of perfume.

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #137 on: February 24, 2015, 07:57:46 PM »
Maybe it was more? Could have been even less!!!

Without knowing the precise details, one can but speculate, wildly, for a lark.

Shame the police files ain't up on the web, we could spend the next 7 to 8 years analysing the timeline.

One disturbing thing that crossed my mind is, if Kate had just settled for £600,000 + maintenance (ie, she wasn't so greedy), she might still be alive today.

Sad but true.


BTW, it doesn't surprise me one iota that it crossed your mind to blame the victim for her own murder.  It's what you do.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #138 on: February 24, 2015, 08:23:34 PM »
Did you or did you not write the following:

That's not the same as what you said.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #139 on: February 24, 2015, 08:24:27 PM »
BTW, it doesn't surprise me one iota that it crossed your mind to blame the victim for her own murder.  It's what you do.

It's kind of true though isn't it.

She knew he was violent, she could have just taken the money & split.

Hanging around demanding more didn't do her any favours really did it.

I'm just saying what I see.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #140 on: February 24, 2015, 08:28:56 PM »
It's kind of true though isn't it.

Sadly, it would seem so.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2015, 08:35:23 PM »
Where DID the dog alert?  In the living room.  According to you the corpse would not have started to emit any sort of odour until after Prout had buried it (conveniently allowing the dog to have failed to alert in the car), so what can we deduce from this?  If the dog alerted, it wasn't to a corpse!  Nor would there have been any cross-contamination cos Speedy ol' Prout did the whole murder to burial in under an hour!

Sorry but have we established how far the burial site was from the farmhouse and would it have been possible to move the body there without the use of the land rover ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #142 on: February 24, 2015, 08:38:16 PM »
It's kind of true though isn't it.

She knew he was violent, she could have just taken the money & split.

Hanging around demanding more didn't do her any favours really did it.

I'm just saying what I see.

it really was her fault....makes you wonder how it ever got to court

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #143 on: February 24, 2015, 08:42:14 PM »
it really was her fault....makes you wonder how it ever got to court

Well it shouldn't have done in the first instance, really, because there was no evidence that he'd killed her.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #144 on: February 24, 2015, 08:47:02 PM »
That's not the same as what you said.
How does it differ?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #145 on: February 24, 2015, 08:48:37 PM »
Well it shouldn't have done in the first instance, really, because there was no evidence that he'd killed her.

Until Eddie strolled along and  scented a corpse where one had never been. 

It makes you think, don't it.

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #146 on: February 24, 2015, 08:49:02 PM »
Sorry but have we established how far the burial site was from the farmhouse and would it have been possible to move the body there without the use of the land rover ?
The body was plaved in the Range Rover and driven to the pub, then back to the farm as Prout searched for a suitable burial spot.  Have you not read anything about this case before?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #147 on: February 24, 2015, 08:55:43 PM »
Until Eddie strolled along and  scented a corpse where one had never been. 

It makes you think, don't it.

Her untouched bank accounts, all her belongings being left at home & Adrian not bothering to inform the police for about 4 days was a bit of a clue really though wasn't it.

Besides, The fact that the McCanns are neither persons of interest or suspects proves that cadaver dogs don't alert to cadaver scent in the first place.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #148 on: February 24, 2015, 08:58:06 PM »
You think it's feasible he killed her, had a whiskey, wrapped up her body, loaded it into his Land Rover, drove to the pub (where according to one report he spent the evening, but let's play it your way and say he only stayed for one), drove back to his farm where he drove around his 276 acres looking for a suitable spot to bury her, got out, dug a hole, and then took her out of the Land Rover all within the space of less than an hour do you?  He must be the same sort of super human speed as Gerry then, yar?

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I would imagine he was pretty familiar with the farm so driving around searching would not come into into the equation, he would know. A competent digger operator would open up a trench shove in the body and backfill in about ten minutes; fifteen minutes top whack.
How big do you think 276 acres is? (how big's a cubit anyway?). It would have a perimeter of about 4km so how long to drive round that? At 15kph that's about say 15 minutes. Even assuming he went the long way round the farm that still leaves 30/35 minutes to drive to the pub and have a quick one and so on. He wouldn't need to be greased lightning exactly.
Just saying like  8(>((
Before you ask I am not saying anything other than he would be familiar with the farm; 15 minutes; 4km;15 minutes; residual time 30 minutes minimum.
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Offline Anna

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #149 on: February 24, 2015, 08:59:40 PM »
Sorry but have we established how far the burial site was from the farmhouse and would it have been possible to move the body there without the use of the land rover ?

It was in woodland that he buried her and the police drove him there from his front in a 4X4.
I cant see a photo of woodland around or near the house, but may wrong.
Take your pick of the pictures, Faith

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-15788696
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062923/Kate-Prout-murder-Husband-Adrian-confesses-shows-police-Red-Hill-Farm-grave.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-15794829
http://metro.co.uk/2011/11/18/adrian-prout-reveals-redhill-farm-grave-of-murdered-wife-kate-in-gloucestershire-224055/
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