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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #225 on: February 25, 2015, 02:35:35 PM »
That's the first mention of a shovel that I've seen.

He owned a pipe laying business, & had experience of digging big old holes.

When I read that...

He is thought to have strangled her to death and then used his expertise as a professional pipe layer to bury her body underground somewhere on their 276-acre estate in Gloucestershire.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7167457/Family-appeal-for-landowner-to-reveal-where-wifes-body-is-buried.html

and added it to the fact that he owned mechanical hardware & it took 'em four days to exhume her ,I assumed wrongly, he dug nice & deep.

Praps not then.
Re: the bit in bold - written before he confessed presumably.  He obviously did bury her deep as it took the recovery team (and dogs) such a long time to locate her remains even though he pointed out to them where he dug the hole.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #226 on: February 25, 2015, 02:47:40 PM »
That's the first mention of a shovel that I've seen.

He owned a pipe laying business, & had experience of digging big old holes.

When I read that...

He is thought to have strangled her to death and then used his expertise as a professional pipe layer to bury her body underground somewhere on their 276-acre estate in Gloucestershire.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7167457/Family-appeal-for-landowner-to-reveal-where-wifes-body-is-buried.html

and added it to the fact that he owned mechanical hardware & it took 'em four days to exhume her ,I assumed wrongly, he dug nice & deep.

Praps not then.

It certainly gives that impression.  In fact one might wonder why he didn't.  Excepting that it was the middle of the night, and he was going to be busy the next day.

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #227 on: February 25, 2015, 02:51:35 PM »
Adrian Prout, 49, then wrapped his wife Kate's body in a curtain and placed it in the back of his Land Rover and drove to a pub.

.......

Mrs Prout's remains were found wrapped in a curtain and plastic sheeting, the inquest at Gloucestershire Coroner's Court heard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139103/Millionaire-farmer-strangled-wife-driving-pub-glass-whisky-inquest-hears.html

When did he put the plastic on, that's what I don't get?!

....and in the Worcester News, she was in a carpet!

Detective inspector Steve Bean of Gloucestershire Police told the inquest that Prout confessed to wrapping the body in a carpet and plastic sheeting and putting it in his Range Rover.

http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/9687871.print/

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Offline Anna

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #228 on: February 25, 2015, 02:54:07 PM »
It certainly gives that impression.  In fact one might wonder why he didn't.  Excepting that it was the middle of the night, and he was going to be busy the next day.

The noise? and it was in the wooded area, so could be difficult to get a digger in, without cutting down a lot of brush etc. Just a thought. And as you said The pheasant pen was fenced and it would need to be ...lots of foxes


Also
It would have taken him much longer to dig a grave by hand, so the body was laying about for some time.
 He couldn't have killed her, had a drink, checked to make sure she was dead, decide what to do next, find something to wrap her in, wrap her in curtain, check the coast was clear, lifted her into the boot, gone to the pub, had at least one drink while deciding what to do. drive back and pick up a shovel, find a spot, dig a grave lift her into it and fill it in....in less than an hour, surely?.
He fractured her neck in several places, so she may have had blood coming from her mouth.
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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #229 on: February 25, 2015, 02:56:27 PM »
A divergence, but I see that police are currently using specialist dogs to search a back alleyway  outside where Claudia Lawrence lived before her disappearance, so the police must have confidence in the ability of these dogs.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11434335/Claudia-Lawrence-Police-say-lovers-have-been-lying.html
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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #230 on: February 25, 2015, 02:56:39 PM »
Adrian Prout, 49, then wrapped his wife Kate's body in a curtain and placed it in the back of his Land Rover and drove to a pub.

.......

Mrs Prout's remains were found wrapped in a curtain and plastic sheeting, the inquest at Gloucestershire Coroner's Court heard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139103/Millionaire-farmer-strangled-wife-driving-pub-glass-whisky-inquest-hears.html

When did he put the plastic on, that's what I don't get?!

....and in the Worcester News, she was in a carpet!

Detective inspector Steve Bean of Gloucestershire Police told the inquest that Prout confessed to wrapping the body in a carpet and plastic sheeting and putting it in his Range Rover.

http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/9687871.print/

British Media, best in the world.

I think the press were just filling in the void with what they heard. The inquest would be correct IMO
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #231 on: February 25, 2015, 03:04:40 PM »
I think the press were just filling in the void with what they heard. The inquest would be correct IMO

& the inquest heard....

A millionaire farmer 'snapped' and strangled his wife during an argument before sitting down to a glass of whisky, an inquest heard today.

Adrian Prout, 49, then wrapped his wife Kate's body in a curtain and placed it in the back of his Land Rover and drove to a pub.

Mrs Prout's remains were found wrapped in a curtain and plastic sheeting, the inquest at Gloucestershire Coroner's Court heard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139103/Millionaire-farmer-strangled-wife-driving-pub-glass-whisky-inquest-hears.html

That explains everything??!!
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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #232 on: February 25, 2015, 03:10:03 PM »
A divergence, but I see that police are currently using specialist dogs to search a back alleyway  outside where Claudia Lawrence lived before her disappearance, so the police must have confidence in the ability of these dogs.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11434335/Claudia-Lawrence-Police-say-lovers-have-been-lying.html

Who said they didn't?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #233 on: February 25, 2015, 03:12:07 PM »
& the inquest heard....

A millionaire farmer 'snapped' and strangled his wife during an argument before sitting down to a glass of whisky, an inquest heard today.

Adrian Prout, 49, then wrapped his wife Kate's body in a curtain and placed it in the back of his Land Rover and drove to a pub.

Mrs Prout's remains were found wrapped in a curtain and plastic sheeting, the inquest at Gloucestershire Coroner's Court heard.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139103/Millionaire-farmer-strangled-wife-driving-pub-glass-whisky-inquest-hears.html

That explains everything??!!

No, it doesn't.  But I doubt we are going to get any better.

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #234 on: February 25, 2015, 03:14:27 PM »
The assistant deputy coroner for Gloucestershire said: "The confession given four years after this horrific event is clear and unequivocal."

The inquest was told Adrian Prout, 49, wrapped his wife's body in a curtain and placed it in the back of his Land Rover and drove to a pub.

He then drove into woodland on his farm at Redmarley, Gloucestershire, and buried her body in a pheasant pen.

Mrs Prout's remains were found wrapped in a curtain and plastic sheeting, the inquest was told.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-17938610

How incredibly clear & unequivocal.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #235 on: February 25, 2015, 03:16:36 PM »
The assistant deputy coroner for Gloucestershire said: "The confession given four years after this horrific event is clear and unequivocal."

The inquest was told Adrian Prout, 49, wrapped his wife's body in a curtain and placed it in the back of his Land Rover and drove to a pub.

He then drove into woodland on his farm at Redmarley, Gloucestershire, and buried her body in a pheasant pen.

Mrs Prout's remains were found wrapped in a curtain and plastic sheeting, the inquest was told.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-17938610

How incredibly clear & unequivocal.

What do you think is missing and how would it help?

Offline misty

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #236 on: February 25, 2015, 03:18:16 PM »
A divergence, but I see that police are currently using specialist dogs to search a back alleyway  outside where Claudia Lawrence lived before her disappearance, so the police must have confidence in the ability of these dogs.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11434335/Claudia-Lawrence-Police-say-lovers-have-been-lying.html

One can only speculate as to why the dogs weren't deployed within days of her disappearance, in the light of rave reviews.

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #237 on: February 25, 2015, 03:19:54 PM »
What do you think is missing and how would it help?

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Offline jassi

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #238 on: February 25, 2015, 03:21:59 PM »
One can only speculate as to why the dogs weren't deployed within days of her disappearance, in the light of rave reviews.

Indeed, though she was considered to be a missing person  for some considerable time. The idea that she had perhaps  been murdered only came later.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #239 on: February 25, 2015, 03:23:26 PM »
The assistant deputy coroner for Gloucestershire said: "The confession given four years after this horrific event is clear and unequivocal."

The inquest was told Adrian Prout, 49, wrapped his wife's body in a curtain and placed it in the back of his Land Rover and drove to a pub.

He then drove into woodland on his farm at Redmarley, Gloucestershire, and buried her body in a pheasant pen.

Mrs Prout's remains were found wrapped in a curtain and plastic sheeting, the inquest was told.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-17938610

How incredibly clear & unequivocal.
What are you finding unclear about the above?