Did Gonçalo Amaral breach Portuguese secrecy laws?

[stephen25000]

It's getting more apparent Eleanor that you supporters don't care what Amaral is found guilty of, just as long as he is found guilty of SOMETHING.

The Portuguese Judiciary have had almost seven years to bring a case against Amaral for breaching the secrecy laws and seem in no way interested in doing so and, to be honest, up until it became apparent that it was unlikely the McCanns were going to come out of the damages trial greatly enriched it didn't seem the supporters had much interest in the alleged breach either.

That's it in a nutshell.

Anything to attack Amaral, by the McCann's and their backers.

[DCI]

If The Portuguese Judiciary don't pursue Amaral for breaching The Secrecy Laws then the whole thing will be a mockery.  Who is likely to get prosecuted in future if they don't?  Portugal might just as well give it up.  And then any idiot who works on a case can write a book based on insider knowledge.

Try that one for size.

I think they will Eleanor, after the verdict. I still believe the first report that came out, then was suddenly whooshed.

[faithlilly]

I think they will Eleanor, after the verdict. I still believe the first report that came out, then was suddenly whooshed.

why would the judiciary wait until after the verdict of a civil case ? If they have enough evidence, and the inclination, to take the case to court surely sooner is better than later. What benefit would be had by waiting ?

[jassi]

I care.  The Law is The Law, and should most certainly apply to those who are employed to uphold The Law.

As I don't live in or visit Portugal, how they conduct their internal affairs is of no concern to me, any more than for example, are those of America or Venezuela.

[DCI]

why would the judiciary wait until after the verdict of a civil case ? If they have enough evidence, and the inclination, to take the case to court surely sooner is better than later. What benefit would be had by waiting ?

It would be a separate case. I thought you would know how the courts work.

"Damages were proven directly originated by the book," said the agency "Lusa" source close to the process, confirming that Judge Melo and Emilia Castro found as a fact that the work "has from the process information", which is a violation of the secrecy of justice.

[Eleanor]

I think they will Eleanor, after the verdict. I still believe the first report that came out, then was suddenly whooshed.

Well, I hope they do.  Amaral did most definitely break The Secrecy Laws.  And we didn't need a Judge to tell us that.  This one has been in the air since his book was first released.

Why haven't they done it sooner?  Amaral is up to his neck in a Civil Case, and breaking The Law is a Criminal Case.
They are still trying to establish if he made up the book, Like how much came from The Files and how much was in his imagination.  But since he is insisting that it all came from The Investigation then he is condemning himself.

Lose Lose, as far as I can see.

[Carana]

I think they will Eleanor, after the verdict. I still believe the first report that came out, then was suddenly whooshed.

Personally, I doubt it... if a criminal prosecution wasn't launched in 2007 concerning the investigation, or 2008 concerning the book, then I find it somewhat unlikely that one would suddenly be launched now (2015).

On a more constructive note, there does seem to be more discussion about how to deal with breaches / possibly even moves towards more transparency in the system these days... even if it only serves future cases.

[DCI]

Personally, I doubt it... if a criminal prosecution wasn't launched in 2007 concerning the investigation, or 2008 concerning the book, then I find it somewhat unlikely that one would suddenly be launched now (2015).

On a more constructive note, there does seem to be more discussion about how to deal with breaches / possibly even moves towards more transparency in the system these days... even if it only serves future cases.

I don't Carana.

This is the first judge on the case that has picked up on the "secrecy" breach.

[Brietta]

As I don't live in or visit Portugal, how they conduct their internal affairs is of no concern to me, any more than for example, are those of America or Venezuela.

I wonder if you are a contributor to forums or other on-line outlets concerning the internal affairs of the USA or Venezuela. 

You do appear to have a certain predilection for posting regarding all things McCann and Portugal ... but nice try at deflection though.

Were the Drs McCann suspected to be in breach of any laws either Portuguese or British there would be a hue and cry about it and I am sure you would have an opinion then.
Did you contribute at all to the threads discussing whether or not they should be charged for alleged neglect?

Carana has provided evidence that the Judicial Secrecy Laws of Portugal are indeed taken very seriously and enforced.

If a former public servant is suspected of having breached the law of the land why should he exempt from the scrutiny which applies to other Portuguese citizens?

Personally, I would not give two hoots as you profess not to, but what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and perhaps it is time for some of the conundrums associated with Madeleine McCann's case to be unravelled, one of which is surely the drip feed of poisonous misinformation designed to denigrate her parents and implicate them in a heinous crime.

[Eleanor]

I don't Carana.

This is the first judge on the case that has picked up on the "secrecy" breach.

Did he make it all up, or did he use the information from the investigation?  That is the crux of the matter.  Amaral cannot have it both ways.

Personally, I think he did a bit of both.  And there is not much doubt that some of his information came from after he was sacked.  But using any information from The Investigation was a Breach of The Secrecy Laws.

[DCI]

Did he make it all up, or did he use the information from the investigation?  That is the crux of the matter.  Amaral cannot have it both ways.

Personally, I think he did a bit of both.  And there is not much doubt that some of his information came from after he was sacked.  But using any information from The Investigation was a Breach of The Secrecy Laws.

There's no doubt he used info from the investigation.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id137.html

Investigation file photos used in his book.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/AMARALS_BOOK.htm

[Eleanor]

There's no doubt he used info from the investigation.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id137.html

I would say so.  And then, whatever didn't fit the evidence, he made up.  So he really ought to lose on both counts.

I would like to think that he is an abomination, but in fact he is just a prideful fool.  He thought he was all powerful, and consequently proceeded to destroy himself.

[faithlilly]

It would be a separate case. I thought you would know how the courts work.

"Damages were proven directly originated by the book," said the agency "Lusa" source close to the process, confirming that Judge Melo and Emilia Castro found as a fact that the work "has from the process information", which is a violation of the secrecy of justice.

As I have already pointed out the 'which is a violation of the secrecy of justice' is not a quote from the judge but I assume 'a source close to the process' ie Isabel Duarte. Of course we also know that the Lusa article has now been discredited.

[faithlilly]

I don't Carana.

This is the first judge on the case that has picked up on the "secrecy" breach.

She didn't, as you say, pick up on the secrecy breach. She asseterf that the book dame from the investigation file as Amaral had claimed.

It is a point FOR Amaral, not against, no matter how you and your cohorts try to spin it

[DCI]

She didn't, as you say, pick up on the secrecy breach. She asseterf that the book dame from the investigation file as Amaral had claimed.

It is a point FOR Amaral, not against, no matter how you and your cohorts try to spin it

Exactly,  he shouldn't have used the investigation files.

First report from CM newspaper

"Damages were proven directly originated by the book," said the agency "Lusa" source close to the process, confirming that Judge Melo and Emilia Castro found as a fact that the work "has from the process information", which is a violation of the secrecy of justice.