Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?

[Eleanor]

So Rebelo went through all the legal loopholes put in his way to organise the rogatory interviews and the rigmarole of arranging the reconstruction to.........? Surely not to save the face of a colleague who, we are told, he had no respect for ?

As to Amaral's colleagues being 'hardly supportive' of him in court, how so ?

Rebelo didn't even stay in England for The Payne Rogatory Interview.  Leaks from The PJ, apparently.

And if you think Amaral's Team were supportive then you have been reading a different Trial from the one that I have.

[G-Unit]

This is an unusual case of a British child being abducted abroad, followed by a crap investigation and a detective hell bent on blaming the parents.  Scotland Yard have had to start from scratch.
And ten million is nothing in an attempt to stop this happening again.  And already any potential abductor is weighing the odds of getting away with such a thing.  Especially since any next time will be dealt with immediately.

I could cry at how badly that poor child was let down.  But you don't need me to tell you of how awful were the mistakes.

I think that's a bit harsh on the PJ who were playing catch up from the very beginning. Had this case happened in the UK the first people the police would have looked at would have been the parents. Compare with the case of Rebecca Watts (RIP). The first property investigated with dogs and forensics was the family home.

Although the GNR and the PJ noticed inconsistances at the beginning, they didn't seem to have the experience or resources to do what British police would have done in the same circumstances. In addition they were trying to deal with huge media and political interest, a language barrier, a lack of technology and holidaying witnesses who were leaving the country next day. Due to the media appeals, hundreds of sightings worldwide had to be looked at and eliminated.

SY can't start from scratch really, as they can't go back to the first few days and do the things they would have done then.

[Eleanor]

I think that's a bit harsh on the PJ who were playing catch up from the very beginning. Had this case happened in the UK the first people the police would have looked at would have been the parents. Compare with the case of Rebecca Watts (RIP). The first property investigated with dogs and forensics was the family home.

Although the GNR and the PJ noticed inconsistances at the beginning, they didn't seem to have the experience or resources to do what British police would have done in the same circumstances. In addition they were trying to deal with huge media and political interest, a language barrier, a lack of technology and holidaying witnesses who were leaving the country next day. Due to the media appeals, hundreds of sightings worldwide had to be looked at and eliminated.

SY can't start from scratch really, as they can't go back to the first few days and do the things they would have done then.

The PJ, i.e. Amaral, Coordinator Extraordinaire, were playing catch the parents.  Sadly, they never got of that one, or got off on it either.  Six months wasted.  Scotland Yard would have dealt with Madeleine's parents in six days.

In My Opinion, Madeleine will only be found by chance now.  The Abductor/s could well be a bit more simple.

[slartibartfast]

Absolutely right Faithlilly.

For a long time, this has solely been abouty protection of the parents.

Madeleine has become a secondary issue, no matter the claims to the contrary.

Of all the theories out there the only ones the supporters will entertain are the abduction or the botched burglary. Strange as those are the ones with the least McCann blame.

[stephen25000]

And yet you have no problem with the 'trawling' of the 15 year old  Barry George case on a regular basis whenever  DCI Redwood is mentioned.   Double standards?

How can anyone know what Op. Grange has to show - when we haven't been informed of their findings?

Or are you claiming that SY are keeping you in the picture?

and mccann supporters regularly mention the Cipriano case.................

Clearly SY has found nothing.

Unless you live in cloud cuckoo land.

[stephen25000]

Thanks for proving my point.  If you really cared about what happened to Madeleine McCann you would not bemoan the amount of money spent trying to get to the bottom of it.

Pathetic response.

What about the victims of other crimes, with a chance of solving the cases ?

Or aren't other victims of crimes important alfred ???

Only Madeleine, is it ?

[carlymichelle]

Pathetic response.

What about the victims of other crimes, with a chance of solving the cases ?

Or aren't other victims of crimes important alfred ???

Only Madeleine, is it ?

exactly why the fixation on maddie??

[G-Unit]

The PJ, i.e. Amaral, Coordinator Extraordinaire, were playing catch the parents.  Sadly, they never got of that one, or got off on it either.  Six months wasted.  Scotland Yard would have dealt with Madeleine's parents in six days.

In My Opinion, Madeleine will only be found by chance now.  The Abductor/s could well be a bit more simple.

If only it had been possible to deal with Madeleine's parents at the beginning. All the inconsistencies could have been examined and the parents could have been cleared of any wrongdoing or arrested. None of the evidence collected at the time proves parental involvement, but neither does it prove their innocence in my opinion.

[Eleanor]

If only it had been possible to deal with Madeleine's parents at the beginning. All the inconsistencies could have been examined and the parents could have been cleared of any wrongdoing or arrested. None of the evidence collected at the time proves parental involvement, but neither does it prove their innocence in my opinion.

The McCanns don't have to prove their innocence.  They are only concerned with finding Madeleine.  And rightly so.

I haven't given up on finding Madeleine, so why should they?

[Alfred R Jones]

Pathetic response.

What about the victims of other crimes, with a chance of solving the cases ?

Or aren't other victims of crimes important alfred ???

Only Madeleine, is it ?

A couple of pages ago you were agreeing with Faithlilly that McCann supporter's (sic) don't care about Madeleine's fate, and now you're accusing me of ONLY caring about Madeleine's fate to the exclusion of all other victims of crime - you do live in a topsy-turvy world don't you Stephen....

[stephen25000]

A couple of pages ago you were agreeing with Faithlilly that McCann supporter's (sic) don't care about Madeleine's fate, and now you're accusing me of ONLY caring about Madeleine's fate to the exclusion of all other victims of crime - you do live in a topsy-turvy world don't you Stephen....

Well just for your benefit...........

I'll rephrase what I said.

You only care about the mccanns, and Madeleine, in my and other peoples opinions, is merely a means to an end for you.

GOT IT  alfred ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Well just for your benefit...........

I'll rephrase what I said.

You only care about the mccanns, and Madeleine, in my and other peoples opinions, is merely a means to an end for you.

GOT IT >

I care about finding out what actually happened to her which is why I don't begrudge the millions so far spent on trying to find out.  You on the other hand DO begrudge the millions spent, leading one to conclude you don't really care about getting to the bottom of this mystery. I find that very odd indeed.

[stephen25000]

I care about finding out what actually happened to her which is why I don't begrudge the millions so far spent on trying to find out.  You on the other hand DO begrudge the millions spent, leading one to conclude you don't really care about getting to the bottom of this mystery. I find that very odd indeed.

The trouble is alfred, this investigation seems to be a bottomless purse, and it is the tax payer forking out , for the incompetence of the mccanns, whose rank stupidity and arrogance in leaving their children by themselves, led to Madeleine's disappearance.

Now how about other victim's of crime ?

Don't they get a look in, in your world ?

Or have you, like other mccann supporters i could name, put her on a pedestal above everyone else ?

Since sooner or later the investigation will be put out to grass.

[Alfred R Jones]

The trouble is alfred, this investigation seems to be a bottomless purse, and it is the tax payer forking out , for the incompetence of the mccanns, whose rank stupidity and arrogance in leaving their children by themselves, led to Madeleine's disappearance.

Now how about other victim's of crime ?

Don't they get a look in, in your world ?

Or have you, like other mccann supporters i could name, put her on a pedestal above everyone else ?

Since sooner or later the investigation will be put out to grass.

So - I don't care about Madeleine, yet I've put her on a pedestal have I?  Do you see the problem with your logic there...?

[stephen25000]

So - I don't care about Madeleine, yet I've put her on a pedestal have I?  Do you see the problem with your logic there...?

In what way do you care about Madeleine ?

Have you searched for her, typing on a keyboard ?

Or is your support for her merely a pretense, to cover your support for the fragrant McCann's ?

and why shouldn't the money have been spent on other victims of crime ?

Why your obsession in supporting the McCann's ?

Who clearly neglected their children and placed their socializing at a higher level.