Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?

[faithlilly]

Who was it who wanted the hearing to be heard in camera ... because Madeleine might still be alive ... was that Goncalo Amaral's lawyer?

A man of consummate compassion then I'm sure you'll agree. Her parents, on the other hand, wanted the proceedings made public, a decision it would seem, that allowed their son Sean to hear the intricacies of his sister's likely demise on the way to school.

Bit of an own goal there Brietta.

[John]

Let's please keep to what's known and avoid speculations.   Even now, nearly eight years on, it isn't even known for sure if anyone was involved in Madeleine's disappearance and if there was, to what extent it represented a purely criminal act.

There are still several possibilities as to what became of Madeleine so please keep this in mind when posting comments.  TY

[G-Unit]

Why wasn't it possible to deal with Madeleine's parents at the beginning?  It would be good if you would provide cites for the reasons.

This is an answer to Eleanor. If you read the posts you will see why i said it.

[Mr Gray]

A man of consummate compassion then I'm sure you'll agree. Her parents, on the other hand, wanted the proceedings made public, a decision it would seem, that allowed their son Sean to hear the intricacies of his sister's likely demise on the way to school.

Bit of an own goal there Brietta.

one of your most ridiculous posts

[Alfred R Jones]

one of your most ridiculous posts

I'll say. 

Do we have a cite for this "compassionate" man's reasons for wishing to conduct the court case in private? 

Does the judge in this case therefore lack compassion by refusing the request?

[Mr Gray]

I'll say. 

Do we have a cite for this "compassionate" man's reasons for wishing to conduct the court case in private? 

Does the judge in this case therefore lack compassion by refusing the request?

conduct the case in private after the book was published on the net..telling everyone that kate and Gerry...the twins parents were a couple of common criminals...the judge seems to agree that's defamation..we wait to see what damages she awards

[faithlilly]

I'll say. 

Do we have a cite for this "compassionate" man's reasons for wishing to conduct the court case in private? 

Does the judge in this case therefore lack compassion by refusing the request?

It seems, according to Brietta, the reason for having the case heard in private was in case Madeleine is still alive. If you need a cite best ask her Alfie.

As to your second question as we don't know the judge's reason for refusing the request it's impossible to say.

You have to wonder though why the McCanns wanted the hearing to be public when they claim they are trying to protect the twins from hearing Amaral's thesis. Perhaps you can explain it to me Alfie !

[Mr Gray]

maddie is either alive or dead and we will not know until we observe her...don't take my word for it...

Schrödinger's cat is a thought experiment, sometimes described as a paradox, devised by Austrian physicist Erwin Schrödinger in 1935.[1] It illustrates what he saw as the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics applied to everyday objects. The scenario presents a cat which may be simultaneously both alive and dead,[2][3][4][5][6][7][8] a state known as a quantum superposition, as a result of being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur. The thought experiment is also often featured in theoretical discussions of the interpretations of quantum mechanics. Schrödinger coined the term Verschränkung (entanglement) in the course of developing the thought experiment.

[Mr Gray]

It seems, according to Brietta, the reason for having the case heard in private was in case Madeleine is still alive. If you need a cite best ask her Alfie.

As to your second question as we don't know the judge's reason for refusing the request it's impossible to say.

You have to wonder though why the McCanns wanted the hearing to be public when they claim they are trying to protect the twins from hearing Amaral's thesis. Perhaps you can explain it to me Alfie !

Still wanting to criticise the parents when you claim your concern is maddie

[Alfred R Jones]

It seems, according to Brietta, the reason for having the case heard in private was in case Madeleine is still alive. If you need a cite best ask her Alfie.

As to your second question as we don't know the judge's reason for refusing the request it's impossible to say.

You have to wonder though why the McCanns wanted the hearing to be public when they claim they are trying to protect the twins from hearing Amaral's thesis. Perhaps you can explain it to me Alfie !

I can't and don't speak for the McCanns Faithlilly.  I can speculate but then I'd be asked for a cite, so pointless to do so, eh?

[faithlilly]

I can't and don't speak for the McCanns Faithlilly.  I can speculate but then I'd be asked for a cite, so pointless to do so, eh?

An opinion doesn't need a cite Alfie. I'm simply asking for your take on it.

[Alfred R Jones]

An opinion doesn't need a cite Alfie. I'm simply asking for your take on it.

my honest answer is - I don't know, but I do believe the McCanns care about their children, unlike you who seems to be of the firm opinion that the McCanns always put their own concerns first.  if it was me I would have wanted the case heard publicly to show that I had nothing to hide, and would have sat my kids down beforehand to explain what was going on and what they were likely to hear on the news and in the playground.  I don't suppose the McCanns' motives and actions were too dissimilar to that, unless you know otherwise?  of course, if the deeply compassionate Amaral had actually expended some of his deep compassion on thinking about the ramifications of writing his book and how they might affect the McCanns' children perhaps he would have kept his quill out of the ink pot in the first place.

[Eleanor]

The McCanns would have been castigated for keeping it secret, no matter who asked for it.  And surely no one believes that Amaral or his Lawyer actually cared about Madeleine.  Madeleine is unlikely to know what is going on.  And her abductors won't be sitting her down in front of a computer to find out.

To me this was a hideous piece of hypocrisy, and very much an own goal, which is probably why he got the sack.  But possibly all the better to spin it when Amaral loses.  But we have all seen the process now, presuming that The Juristas are to be believed.

Sadly, the twins will have to live with this, but then they have always had to.  Hiding things won't help them.  My parents hid things from me which I will now never get any answers to.  And I am still very cross about that.

[faithlilly]

my honest answer is - I don't know, but I do believe the McCanns care about their children, unlike you who seems to be of the firm opinion that the McCanns always put their own concerns first.  if it was me I would have wanted the case heard publicly to show that I had nothing to hide, and would have sat my kids down beforehand to explain what was going on and what they were likely to hear on the news and in the playground.  I don't suppose the McCanns' motives and actions were too dissimilar to that, unless you know otherwise?  of course, if the deeply compassionate Amaral had actually expended some of his deep compassion on thinking about the ramifications of writing his book and how they might affect the McCanns' children perhaps he would have kept his quill out of the ink pot in the first place.

I too believe the McCanns care for their children although I do also believe, on occasion, self-preservation is their motivating factor. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive as you do. It does seem obvious though, from Kate's testimony, that the McCanns didn't sit the children down as you would to explain what was going on or Sean wouldn't have heard about Amaral's thesis on the school bus. A rather glaring omission I'm sure you'll agree especiallyy when they would have been aware because they were against the trial being held in camera that the media would be reporting on it.

[Eleanor]

Should a Bus Driver be listening to the radio while driving children to school?  I think The McCanns can be forgiven for missing that possibility.