Was Kate McCanns "f.....g tosser" comment directed at Ricardo Paiva offensive?

[sadie]

Quite simple really.

She was trying to play the victim of standard police procedure in 'how dare they possibly accuse me'.

All the mccanns have tried to do throughout this case, is deflect the attention from themselves.

Twee comment Stephen.


All the Mccanns have tried to do throughout this case is direct the attention to what matters.

FINDING MADELEINE.

[stephen25000]

The consequences of Amarals lack of action in the right direction ARE THE ONES PERTINENT TO poor Madeleine. 

The PJ force in general were really hard working.  Seems that it was a set of Officers under Amarals direction that messed up

The searches for Madeleine following her disappearance were extremely extensive, and many hundreds of people spent days and nights searching for her, along with the local and other countries police forces.

and need I remind you, Amaral was the case coordinator.

As to the 'messing up', that was the responsibility of Madeleine's parents and no one else.

[stephen25000]

Twee comment Stephen.


All the Mccanns have tried to do throughout this case is direct the attention to what matters.

FINDING MADELEINE.

Really.

Finding Madeleine ?

When and where exactly were they doing that ?

[G-Unit]

If Kate McCann thought Paiva was an FT, and actually expressed this sentiment under her breath at the time, then isn't she entitled to report this in her book?  What woudl have happened if she hadn't written it and subsequently Paiva decided to write a book in which he wrote "I could hear Kate was swearing at me under her breath"?  then all the "sceptics would be jumping up and down about her lying by omission.  Kate gains nothing significant telling us she thought and said these words, we gain some understanding in how she felt in that situation, Paiva might possibly feel somewhat insulted to read this passage (if he has bothered to read her book in the first place) and a few buttoned up old dears might have decide dto take offence at the naughty words.  Big f.....g deal - is this really worthy of such intense debate?  Isn't it time we moved on to the " torn genitals" again, which really give some people a fit of the vapours?  Then you can all spend Easter Monday slagging off Kate with renewed vigour!

I would describe the comment as 'bad language' which is defined as 'words which are considered offensive by most people'. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/bad-language 

However, do 'most people' see swearing as offensive any more? Judging by the posts on this thread a lot of people don't. It seems to be seen as an acceptable method of expressing yourself.

[Alice Purjorick]

If Kate McCann thought Paiva was an FT, and actually expressed this sentiment under her breath at the time, then isn't she entitled to report this in her book?  What woudl have happened if she hadn't written it and subsequently Paiva decided to write a book in which he wrote "I could hear Kate was swearing at me under her breath"?  then all the "sceptics would be jumping up and down about her lying by omission.  Kate gains nothing significant telling us she thought and said these words, we gain some understanding in how she felt in that situation, Paiva might possibly feel somewhat insulted to read this passage (if he has bothered to read her book in the first place) and a few buttoned up old dears might have decide dto take offence at the naughty words.  Big f.....g deal - is this really worthy of such intense debate?  Isn't it time we moved on to the " torn genitals" again, which really give some people a fit of the vapours?  Then you can all spend Easter Monday slagging off Kate with renewed vigour!

I presume that is meant to be irony rather than a serious proposition?
I would think there are far more interesting things to discuss and do on Easter Monday. Like spray weed killer on about 60 metres of gravel drive, catch you rater arrigator.

[Mr Gray]

I would describe the comment as 'bad language' which is defined as 'words which are considered offensive by most people'. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/bad-language 

However, do 'most people' see swearing as offensive any more? Judging by the posts on this thread a lot of people don't. It seems to be seen as an acceptable method of expressing yourself.

it's all about context

[faithlilly]

Quite simple really.

She was trying to play the victim of standard police procedure in 'how dare they possibly accuse me'.

All the mccanns have tried to do throughout this case, is deflect the attention from themselves.

I'm not actually sure why Kate took such offence to Pavia's actions in particular. It wasn't as if she didn't know he was a police officer or indeed what his role entailed.

Of course by the time Madeleine was published Paiva had given his 'dream' evidence in the libel trial and a concentrated effort among supporters had already begun to descredit him ( the Facebook 'sting' being part of that ) so perhaps this explains Kate's inclusion of the expletives in her book rather than any real outrage at his part in her questioning ?

[Mr Gray]

I'm not actually sure why Kate took such offence to Pavia's actions in particular. It wasn't as if she didn't know he was a police officer or indeed what his role entailed.

Of course by the time Madeleine was published Paiva had given his 'dream' evidence in the libel trial and a concentrated effort among supporters had already begun to descredit him ( the Facebook 'sting' being part of that ) so perhaps this explains Kate's inclusion of the expletives in her book rather than any real outrage at his part in her questioning ?

it is no surprise that opinion on this is divided strictly down part lines...did we expect anything else....boring and predictable

[John]

As Alfred posted previously, Paiva would have been grossly insulted to read the comment and that in my opinion was the crux of it.  For those who have not read the extract in the book...

Each time a dog gave a signal, Ricardo would pause the video and inform me that blood had been found in this site and that the DNA from the sample matched Madeleine’s. He would stare at me intently and ask me to explain this. These were the only times I didn’t respond with a ‘No comment.’ Instead I said I couldn’t explain it, but neither could he. I remember feeling such disdain for Ricardo at this point. What was he doing? I thought. Just folowing orders? Under my breath, I found myself whispering, ‘f.....g tosser, f.....g tosser.’ This quiet chant somehow kept me strong, kept me in control. This man did not deserve my respect. ‘f.....g tosser . . (Madeleine)

[Alfred R Jones]

I would describe the comment as 'bad language' which is defined as 'words which are considered offensive by most people'. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/bad-language 

However, do 'most people' see swearing as offensive any more? Judging by the posts on this thread a lot of people don't. It seems to be seen as an acceptable method of expressing yourself.

Yes it is (in certain contexts, a book written for adults being one of them)  - welcome to the 21st century.

[faithlilly]

Yes it is (in certain contexts, a book written for adults being one of them)  - welcome to the 21st century.

Indeed Alfie and by the time her children are old enough to read the book I'm sure they will be well used to both their mother and father's foul language.

[Mr Gray]

Indeed Alfie and by the time her children are old enough to read the book I'm sure they will be well used to both their mother and father's foul language.

Children hear this sort of language everyday at school...they are used to it

[jassi]

Not quite the sort of language you expect your mother to use though.

[Alfred R Jones]

Indeed Alfie and by the time her children are old enough to read the book I'm sure they will be well used to both their mother and father's foul language.

mine are very used to my "foul language" and don't seem any the worse for it.  It's hardly uncommon for kids to hear their parents curse and swear these days - declining moral standards innit?  The world's going to hell in a handcart, wasn't like that in my day, I blame the EU, etc etc etc.

[Alfred R Jones]

Not quite the sort of language you expect your mother to use though.

surely it's exactly the language you'd imagine heartless, cruel, body hiding Kate to use though?!  Why so surprised?