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Lyall

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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #90 on: April 15, 2015, 02:22:06 PM »
I have just watched a news broadcast of parents making an appeal for information on their missing daughter ... that is what happens ... publicity!

I am sickened that only fifteen days after Madeleine's disappearance in Portugal there was already resentment being publicly expressed that she was being looked for.

If you think that is acceptable and wish to defend it, that is between you and your conscience.

There was - in UK and doubtless much more so in Portugal - concern that the media circus hampered police and reduced Madeleine's chances (if abducted/kidnapped and still alive).

I've no problem defending that.

That concern emerged much sooner than 15 days in.

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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #91 on: April 15, 2015, 03:04:03 PM »
There was - in UK and doubtless much more so in Portugal - concern that the media circus hampered police and reduced Madeleine's chances (if abducted/kidnapped and still alive).

I've no problem defending that.

That concern emerged much sooner than 15 days in.

In the UK the police use the media to get the message out and they keep them informed. They will advise relatives what to say and what not to say during an appeal. In Portugal this doesn't happen, so the parents took it upon themselves to publicise not just the disappearance but also their own conclusions on why their daughter disappeared. The UK media ran the story that she had been abducted because that was the story given to them. The apartment had been broken into and a child taken.

Once it emerged that the apartment had not been broken into the questions began.
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #92 on: April 15, 2015, 03:09:50 PM »
In the UK the police use the media to get the message out and they keep them informed. They will advise relatives what to say and what not to say during an appeal. In Portugal this doesn't happen, so the parents took it upon themselves to publicise not just the disappearance but also their own conclusions on why their daughter disappeared. The UK media ran the story that she had been abducted because that was the story given to them. The apartment had been broken into and a child taken.

Once it emerged that the apartment had not been broken into the questions began.

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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #93 on: April 15, 2015, 03:23:30 PM »
Are you a priest, monk or ex pupil of Ampleforth College, perchance?

There is something familiar about the way that you put word to paper

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« Reply #94 on: April 15, 2015, 03:24:54 PM »
To be honest Montclair I don't think it would have mattered which country Madeleine had disappeared in the faithful would still have given it a verbal kicking.

An odds on racing certainty more like.
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #95 on: April 15, 2015, 04:50:02 PM »
There was - in UK and doubtless much more so in Portugal - concern that the media circus hampered police and reduced Madeleine's chances (if abducted/kidnapped and still alive).

I've no problem defending that.

That concern emerged much sooner than 15 days in.

Oh I know ... when you are looking for a missing person ... best to do it in secret ... no photographs ... no public appeals ...

Wonder why other law enforcement professionals haven't thought to use that model      £4%4£
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #96 on: April 15, 2015, 04:52:39 PM »
In the UK the police use the media to get the message out and they keep them informed. They will advise relatives what to say and what not to say during an appeal. In Portugal this doesn't happen, so the parents took it upon themselves to publicise not just the disappearance but also their own conclusions on why their daughter disappeared. The UK media ran the story that she had been abducted because that was the story given to them. The apartment had been broken into and a child taken.

Once it emerged that the apartment had not been broken into the questions began.

You know that Madeleine had not been abducted ... how exactly?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #97 on: April 15, 2015, 05:22:28 PM »
In the UK the police use the media to get the message out and they keep them informed. They will advise relatives what to say and what not to say during an appeal. In Portugal this doesn't happen, so the parents took it upon themselves to publicise not just the disappearance but also their own conclusions on why their daughter disappeared. The UK media ran the story that she had been abducted because that was the story given to them. The apartment had been broken into and a child taken.

Once it emerged that the apartment had not been broken into the questions began.

Any normal person's immediate first thoughts on finding their daughter missing  - and the previously closed window in her room -  now wide open - would be that someone had got in through that window and abducted their child.

There would be something wrong with them if they didn't think that IMO.

Later - when more facts emerged -  they realised that the intruder may have entered via other means.

Also perfectly normal.

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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #98 on: April 15, 2015, 05:38:51 PM »
Any normal person's immediate first thoughts on finding their daughter missing  - and the previously closed window in her room -  now wide open - would be that someone had got in through that window and abducted their child.

There would be something wrong with them if they didn't think that IMO.

Later - when more facts emerged -  they realised that the intruder may have entered via other means.

Also perfectly normal.

The police didn't see the window open and finger prints found were not from an abductor. You would think he/she would wear gloves but no marks found.
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #99 on: April 15, 2015, 05:54:09 PM »
The police didn't see the window open and finger prints found were not from an abductor. You would think he/she would wear gloves but no marks found.

Did they look.

Yes and you would think there would have been other prints found. If Amaral thinks Madeliene climbed on the windowsill, why no fingerprints or fibres from her pyjamas.
Out of all the people who had been in the apartment, all week, very conveniently only Kates were found. Looks like no other places were tested. Surely, Gerry and the twins prints should have been found, somewhere.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #100 on: April 15, 2015, 06:25:13 PM »
You have one PT friend and he doesn't know the concept "innocent until proven guilty"!! I have lots of Portuguese friends and they are well aware of the concept. I even had colleague at work whose husband was a judge and think that he would know the concept.

I don't think that you have even the slightest idea of what democracy is like in Portugal. For one thing, the people have more rights when comes to unions and public demonstrations than in the UK.

Ofcourse it is just a concept...because here's the thing. If I kill someone I am guilty of killing that person, there is nothing innocent about it.BUT in the eye of the Law (mega bucks industry for the great and the greedy) I may be 'found' to be innocent ON ACCOUNT that no one saw me and CPS had no 'evidence' proof'...cool eh?  well sweet for the crims.

UK does not have a 'democracy' in any form.. we are serfs- ruled by monarch we are still slaves. Dontcha know!
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #101 on: April 15, 2015, 06:26:25 PM »
Ofcourse it is just a concept...because here's the thing. If I kill someone I am guilty of killing that person, there is nothing innocent about it.BUT in the eye of the Law (mega bucks industry for the great and the greedy) I may be 'found' to be innocent ON ACCOUNT that no one saw me and CPS had no 'evidence' proof'...cool eh?  well sweet for the crims.

UK does not have a 'democracy' in any form.. we are serfs- ruled by monarch we are still slaves. Dontcha know!
It is a romantic notion thrown at us during election time...
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #102 on: April 15, 2015, 06:27:50 PM »
Just wondering did April Jones parents meet the pope? go on Oprah? go jogging and blogging.. I heard they were and still are distraught....
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #103 on: April 15, 2015, 06:36:17 PM »
Just wondering did April Jones parents meet the pope? go on Oprah? go jogging and blogging.. I heard they were and still are distraught....
No but they have written a book which is on sale at half-price on Amazon and WHSmiths, which, according to sceptic logic means that no one wants to buy it and is therefore a flop. 

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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #104 on: April 15, 2015, 06:38:06 PM »
Just wondering did April Jones parents meet the pope? go on Oprah? go jogging and blogging.. I heard they were and still are distraught....

Perhaps they were more concerned about their daughter and not becoming 'z-list celebs'.

Or perhaps not. %£&)**# &%&£(+ &%+((£

The Jones were concerned about their daughter.

As to the mccanns, actions speak louder than words.
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