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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2015, 11:19:29 PM »
I'd say idolitis on behalf of whoever wrote the statements up. You can't tell me any two people would use the exact same words.

A lot of the Portuguese statements are summarised. I don't know which is worse; those or the Leicester police er um tut ones.  @)(++(*
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Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2015, 11:28:08 PM »
A lot of the Portuguese statements are summarised. I don't know which is worse; those or the Leicester police er um tut ones.  @)(++(*

At least LP are verbatim statements, done at the time taken, and recorded properly.
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Offline misty

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2015, 11:38:06 PM »
At least LP are verbatim statements, done at the time taken, and recorded properly.

Didn't you notice who the interpreter was?

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2015, 11:40:19 PM »
At least LP are verbatim statements, done at the time taken, and recorded properly.

The great weakness of the Portuguese witness statements is that they are not verbatim; there is no dubiety about what questions witnesses were asked and exactly the answers given in the British statements leaving no room for dubiety or interpretation.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #79 on: April 09, 2015, 11:41:01 PM »
At least LP are verbatim statements, done at the time taken, and recorded properly.

Oh yeah, just so hard to read. I lose concentration ploughing through them.
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Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #80 on: April 10, 2015, 07:41:30 AM »
I wonder if it was the police or the interpreters taking shortcuts? In the McCann's first statements their description of Madeleine is almost identical.
Kate;
Concerning the child's personality, she is extrovert, very active, talkative, smart and relates to other children with great ease. But she would never go with a stranger
Gerald;
As regards personality, the child was extrovert, very active, talkative, alert with an easy relationship with other children. He also says that she would never go with a stranger.

So much for the accuracy of the Portuguese statements

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #81 on: April 10, 2015, 09:48:07 AM »
So much for the accuracy of the Portuguese statements

Do you mean the parents descriptions of their own child are inaccurate?
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Offline John

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #82 on: April 10, 2015, 10:08:24 AM »
I'd say idolitis on behalf of whoever wrote the statements up. You can't tell me any two people would use the exact same words.

I noticed duplication in the GNR statements, something which the British police are good at (see Jeremy Bamber police statements)

So, back to topic, are we all agreed there is no evidence as to what happened to Madeleine?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #83 on: April 10, 2015, 10:08:34 AM »
There certainly appears to have been sufficient evidence available both to the PJ and SY to enable the reopening of Madeleine McCann's case.


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Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood, who is heading what has been called Operation Grange, said: "The review has given us new thinking, new theories, new evidence and new witnesses." 

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Without that hard evidence there is no doubt Madeleine McCann's case would have been reassigned to the dustbin of the archives where it had rested since 2008  and where it would have remained without her parents' much despised and actively resisted and obstructed campaign on her behalf.

The reopening of the case answers the question of the thread title.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Montclair

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #84 on: April 10, 2015, 10:12:49 AM »
I wonder if it was the police or the interpreters taking shortcuts? In the McCann's first statements their description of Madeleine is almost identical.
Kate;
Concerning the child's personality, she is extrovert, very active, talkative, smart and relates to other children with great ease. But she would never go with a stranger
Gerald;
As regards personality, the child was extrovert, very active, talkative, alert with an easy relationship with other children. He also says that she would never go with a stranger.

Why doesn't anyone consider the possibility that both parents described their daughter in the exact same way, especially since AFAIK they gave their statements together.

Offline Carana

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #85 on: April 10, 2015, 10:45:25 AM »
I noticed duplication in the GNR statements, something which the British police are good at (see Jeremy Bamber police statements)

So, back to topic, are we all agreed there is no evidence as to what happened to Madeleine?

If the collection and analysis of evidence is flawed, it's unlikely that there would be much.

Offline Carana

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #86 on: April 10, 2015, 10:46:01 AM »
Why doesn't anyone consider the possibility that both parents described their daughter in the exact same way, especially since AFAIK they gave their statements together.

Did they?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #87 on: April 10, 2015, 11:24:54 AM »
I noticed duplication in the GNR statements, something which the British police are good at (see Jeremy Bamber police statements)

So, back to topic, are we all agreed there is no evidence as to what happened to Madeleine?

There's no evidence to support an abduction, although it's a possibility. Kate and Gerald McCann emphatically deny that Madeleine was capable of leaving the apartment but Kate gave that as the reason for leaving the patio door open, so it has to be a possibility. There's no evidence that Amaral's theory is correct except the dog alerts, which didn't lead to the collection of any hard evidence.

Circumstantial evidence abounds, and has allowed everyone interested to use it to support their own theories of what happened. 
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Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #88 on: April 10, 2015, 11:40:38 AM »
Why doesn't anyone consider the possibility that both parents described their daughter in the exact same way, especially since AFAIK they gave their statements together.

No they didn't.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #89 on: April 10, 2015, 12:22:58 PM »
If the collection and analysis of evidence is flawed, it's unlikely that there would be much.

the collection and analysis is flawed...you only have to look at amarals analysis in his book