Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?

[Mr Gray]

The three children were given rohipnol whilst in the nursery? Ive heard it all now, I think. This makes no sense on any level IMO, perhaps the poster who suggested this can explain fully?

the children were not given rohypnol....

[mercury]

the children were not given rohypnol....

A poster here suggested it was likely, sorry, cannot find the post. in any case, whether rohipnol or other drug, I find it VERY questionable that all three kids were "drugged" during the day,  ETA that is iimplicating the nannies

[G-Unit]

A poster here suggested it was likely, sorry, cannot find the post. in any case, whether rohipnol or other drug, I find it VERY questionable that all three kids were "drugged" during the day,  ETA that is iimplicating the nannies

The parents and their friends have suggested that the twins may have been drugged. Rohipnol was suggested as a possible drug but as it acts in 20 minutes the only people who could have given it would be those who were with the children later, not the Nannies. If the twins were drugged it would most likely have to be something given orally or by injection in order to still be working hours later.

Kate McCann kept putting her hands on their backs and under their noses checking for breathing. That's what a lay person might do, but as a doctor and an anesthetist Kate McCann should have reacted quite differently in my opinion.

[Brietta]

The parents and their friends have suggested that the twins may have been drugged. Rohipnol was suggested as a possible drug but as it acts in 20 minutes the only people who could have given it would be those who were with the children later, not the Nannies. If the twins were drugged it would most likely have to be something given orally or by injection in order to still be working hours later.

Kate McCann kept putting her hands on their backs and under their noses checking for breathing. That's what a lay person might do, but as a doctor and an anesthetist Kate McCann should have reacted quite differently in my opinion.

How should she have acted?

Maybe she should have used the ubiquitous mythical syringe to take blood samples to send to the lab for analysis ... oh, should have remembered the twins were in a crime scene which should have been controlled by the PJ ... they were in charge ~ not the victims of the crime!

Think things through before manufacturing another complaint levelled at the mother of the missing child and how she should or should not have acted ... this was something the PJ should have addressed but just another something they did not.

[Alfred R Jones]

The parents and their friends have suggested that the twins may have been drugged. Rohipnol was suggested as a possible drug but as it acts in 20 minutes the only people who could have given it would be those who were with the children later, not the Nannies. If the twins were drugged it would most likely have to be something given orally or by injection in order to still be working hours later.

Kate McCann kept putting her hands on their backs and under their noses checking for breathing. That's what a lay person might do, but as a doctor and an anesthetist Kate McCann should have reacted quite differently in my opinion.

What should she have done then?

[slartibartfast]

What should she have done then?

Wake them up?

[Brietta]

Wake them up?

The noise and the activity surrounding them didn't do it, neither did lifting them from their cots and transferring them to another apartment ... so how do you suggest she should have wakened them?

[stephen25000]

Wake them up?

Both of them should have insisted they were tested for drugs.


Even more apparent as kate mccann was an 'anesthetist' 

Given Names :   Kate Marie

Surname :  Healy

Gender :  Woman

 Status : Registered without a licence to practise

Specialist Register entry date : This doctor is not on the Specialist Register

[slartibartfast]

The noise and the activity surrounding them didn't do it, neither did lifting them from their cots and transferring them to another apartment ... so how do you suggest she should have wakened them?

Totally strange. Why didn't a pair of Doctors make sure that the twins were Ok?

[Brietta]

Both of them should have insisted they were tested for drugs.


Even more apparent as kate mccann was an 'anesthetist' 

Indeed they should ... maybe even run them to the local hospital themselves ... I'm sure I can't think of anything else which might be preoccupying them ~ wait a minute though, wasn't their three year old daughter missing???

The police were in charge ... the police should have taken the appropriate action ... however, why miss the opportunity to metaphorically beat the McCann's up at any juncture ... don't forget they did go out and leave their children unattended.

There, that will save you the bother of 'reminding' us ... but I'm sure you won't let that hinder you.

[Benice]

Apparently according to Amaral's book - this is the reason why no drugs tests were carried out:-

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From the start, the way the children slept had seemed suspicious to us and we wanted to have screening tests carried out: nevertheless, faced with the media coverage of the case, we had put this off, worried about exposing the parents to trial by the public. This was a mistake.''
Unquote

What a pathetic excuse.   Why testing the twins for drugs was perceived by Amaral as something which would expose the McCanns to trial by the public he doesn't explain. 

No way would the McCanns have been able to take their twins independently for testing - as the question of drug use was part of the investigation and they would have been breaking the secrecy laws.  Only the PJ could have arranged this.

The fact that the McCanns asked the PJ about the use of drugs in the first few days is recorded in a couple of the FLO's statements. 



 

[stephen25000]

Indeed they should ... maybe even run them to the local hospital themselves ... I'm sure I can't think of anything else which might be preoccupying them ~ wait a minute though, wasn't their three year old daughter missing???

The police were in charge ... the police should have taken the appropriate action ... however, why miss the opportunity to metaphorically beat the McCann's up at any juncture ... don't forget they did go out and leave their children unattended.

There, that will save you the bother of 'reminding' us ... but I'm sure you won't let that hinder you.

I have stated before, that the police and the parents should have had the children checked for drugs.

Read over my past posts in regard to that..

As to not having time to take the children to a hospital to be tested, perhaps, just perhaps, instead of resuming jogging, tennis, visiting other countries and meeting 'celebrities, in the aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance, they could have done that themselves.

The none independent tests some 6 months later were irrelevant, and not independently supervised.

[Benice]

The McCanns could not take the children themselves.  That would involve discussing the case with hospital staff and would be breaking the secrecy laws.

[G-Unit]

Apparently according to Amaral's book - this is the reason why no drugs tests were carried out:-

Quote
From the start, the way the children slept had seemed suspicious to us and we wanted to have screening tests carried out: nevertheless, faced with the media coverage of the case, we had put this off, worried about exposing the parents to trial by the public. This was a mistake.''
Unquote

What a pathetic excuse.   Why testing the twins for drugs was perceived by Amaral as something which would expose the McCanns to trial by the public he doesn't explain. 

No way would the McCanns have been able to take their twins independently for testing - as the question of drug use was part of the investigation and they would have been breaking the secrecy laws.  Only the PJ could have arranged this.

The fact that the McCanns asked the PJ about the use of drugs in the first few days is recorded in a couple of the FLO's statements.

A doctor who has just had a child disappear suspects that her remaining two children may stop breathing due to sedation, so she does.......nothing. She doesn't attempt to rouse them to check if she can wake them. She doesn't ask for an ambulance to be called so they can be observed/tested in hospital. She puts her fingers under their noses now and then and nothing else. Had the twins stopped breathing at some point how on earth could anyone blame the police rather than the doctors? I have seen some wild attempts to justify the actions of these people but that takes the prize!

[stephen25000]

The McCanns could not take the children themselves.  That would involve discussing the case with hospital staff and would be breaking the secrecy laws.

Why would it involve breaking the secrecy laws ?

That is a red herring.