Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?

[Lyall]

What do you think the discussion about the twins possibly, maybe having been drugged has to do with the subject of this thread?

The possibility they'd been drugged combined with the lack of urgency about it shown by the parents is evidence.

[Eleanor]

The possibility they'd been drugged combined with the lack of urgency about it shown by the parents is evidence.

Evidence of what?

[Lyall]

Evidence of what?

Most single pieces of evidence aren't evidence of anything much on their own. But put together they can be.

[Alice Purjorick]

Can I have the link again?  Sorry.  Please may I have the link again? 

But when it comes to pointless comments, you are so much better at that than I am.  That is mostly all you ever do.

But good on ya.  Where would we all be without spurious rubbish.

I am sure mercury will oblige

I have a low boredom threshold.

Judging by the last two days posts pretty much redundant 

[Alice Purjorick]

What do you think the discussion about the twins possibly, maybe having been drugged has to do with the subject of this thread?

It makes for a discussion point I suppose. Is there hard evidence of Amelie and Sean having been "drugged".
No! (IMHO of course) but some folk enjoy speculating and some folk enjoy complaining about those who speculate. c.f "Jesus Was A Capricorn"
Just as an aside isn't it odd how siblings of differing ages are referred to by their names but if they are twins they are doomed to a life of being referred to as "The Twins".

[lordpookles]

This one? https://youtu.be/Ix6bKUnmOCM
Anyway since the twins were found to be OK and the parents were in a state of great distress, at the time, do you think it would it be uppermost in their mind, when they were obviously in a extremely confused and anxious state as to what had happened to Madeleine?

My children when they were babies, slept through family celebrations and all sorts.

Thanks. Yes that's the one.

I mean it was of course on Kate's mind as we have a witness testimony that she kept checking the twins and checking their breathing, so their not waking up was a concern that night. Completely reasonable as if you think your child has been abducted you would of course wonder why they took her and left the other two and would likely no doubt look them over once this thought occurred to you I would assume, which Kate did do.

Also you mention your young children slept through the night during family celebrations and loud noise, but was this more of a rarity then the standard? Also, sudden noise and commotion is much likely to wake someone up then say a party which had already started and was already noisy when you went to bed imo.

[Eleanor]

Most single pieces of evidence aren't evidence of anything much on their own. But put together they can be.

Only can be?  How bad is that when it comes to decimating The McCanns?

[Carana]

I hate to say it, yet again, but what hard evidence would one expect in such a case?

No one saw a child being stuffed into a car screeching off with a snapshot of the licence plate, corroborated by cctv. Potentially useful DNA either wasn't collected or has been mislaid.

A more extensive investigation into phone use appears to be an area of interest...

It may sadly turn out that no one will ever know what happened to Madeleine in the near future. However, it is possible that the net is closing in on certain people who may have committed crimes against other children, and they, too, deserve justice.

[Lyall]

Only can be?  How bad is that when it comes to decimating The McCanns?

Decimating? Us? Give over.

[Eleanor]

I am sure mercury will oblige

I have a low boredom threshold.

Judging by the last two days posts pretty much redundant 

So  your low boredom threshold is enough to excuse your gratuitous remarks directed at other posters?
And you think that your low boredom threshold suggests superior intelligence?

[Eleanor]

Decimating? Us? Give over.

Think about it.  This is what you try to do.

[Brietta]

as I said...context...kate now says ..at the time it seemed weird...obviously having reflected on the situation it no longer seems weird....kids can sleep very deeply

Exactly ... what was Sean doing when being carried off the air plane in his father's arms directly into the waiting media scrum??  He was indeed in a very deep sleep and did not stir in the slightest ... I would describe it as 'out for the count'.

[Alice Purjorick]

So  your low boredom threshold is enough to excuse your gratuitous remarks directed at other posters?
And you think that your low boredom threshold suggests superior intelligence?

No I don't; I did not even intimate such but if it makes you happy to believe it be my guest.
I just find it beyond parody that supporters believe "sceptics" are somehow ESN and love to make posts to that effect which are rarely removed or commented on. I like to have a pop back occasionally; about 5 times a day according to the stats.
If you don't like it just delete all my posts and get admin to ban me it's all the same to me. If however folk are rude to me while I am here I will be rude back; that's fair enough isn't it?

[Brietta]

No I don't; I did not even intimate such but if it makes you happy to believe it be my guest.
I just find it beyond parody that supporters believe "sceptics" are somehow ESN and love to make posts to that effect which are rarely removed or commented on. I like to have a pop back occasionally; about 5 times a day according to the stats.
If you don't like it just delete all my posts and get admin to ban me it's all the same to me. If however folk are rude to me while I am here I will be rude back; that's fair enough isn't it?

What is ESN?

[Lyall]

Think about it.  This is what you try to do.

Is that what Martin Frizell was trying to do with his film on Channel 5 last year?

Were Summers & Swan?

They discuss the case just as we do. What's the difference other than different opinions?