Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?

[Gadfly2.1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InJLmyakzeE

36 minutes in here, Prof. Dave Barclay takes a nuanced look at things re: shutters.

[Miss Taken Identity]

So, you are telling me that if you left your small child asleep in a room with the windows closed and then when you looked in on her she was gone and the windows were open this would not be evidence of anything apart from the windows being open?  I had to ask it again because you didn't really answer my question.  Are you able to put yourself in the scenario I have painted or not?  Because if you haven't the imagination then please don't bother to reply again.

I answered your question!   open window+missing child does NOT = abduction. I also suggested another two scenarios of which you chose to ignore.

If I had a briused face would that mean I was battered by a husband/boyfriend? or did I fall on a mountain last week!?

oh The amount of people who asked me if I 'wanted to talk in confidence about my  bruised face  was endearing, but could I convince people NO!...I fell over...seriously. check camera phone for EVIDENCE.

[Anna]

Please try and stay within the Topic of the thread. Thank you.


 

[Alfred R Jones]

I answered your question!   open window+missing child does NOT = abduction. I also suggested another two scenarios of which you chose to ignore.

If I had a briused face would that mean I was battered by a husband/boyfriend? or did I fall on a mountain last week!?

oh The amount of people who asked me if I 'wanted to talk in confidence about my  bruised face  was endearing, but could I convince people NO!...I fell over...seriously. check camera phone for EVIDENCE.

I give up. 

[Alfred R Jones]

Anyone who thinks that an open window in a room from whence a child has gone missing is not evidence of something has rocks in their heads IMO.  Of course it is evidence, which when put together with other known facts such as the age of the missing child, the likelihood of them being able to open the window, etc helps to point to certain conclusions.  I don't expect one singe "sceptic" to agree, but that's their problem. 

[Miss Taken Identity]

I give up.

Hmm should I gloat?   

Psst... circumstancial evidence is NOT in anyones book,description HARD PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

so... shall we begin again.

Is there any hard evidence of an abduction via the window?  NO!

[Alice Purjorick]

Always above the situation?  That describes you to a tee.  Now do bog off and press someone else's button for a change.

Of course. You weren't singled out you know you were merely the next one on the list.
Bogging off now.

[Gadfly2.1]

Anyone who thinks that an open window in a room from whence a child has gone missing is not evidence of something has rocks in their heads IMO.  Of course it is evidence, which when put together with other known facts such as the age of the missing child, the likelihood of them being able to open the window, etc helps to point to certain conclusions.  I don't expect one singe "sceptic" to agree, but that's their problem.

You're certainly right.  That is evidence of 'something.'  In these scenarios, the next step is to analyse forensically the window and room and see who has been handling it / been present in the room.  That will be indicative of who interfered with the window or shutter.

[G-Unit]

You're certainly right.  That is evidence of 'something.'  In these scenarios, the next step is to analyse forensically the window and room and see who has been handling it / been present in the room.  That will be indicative of who interfered with the window or shutter.

Having first confirmed that the shutters and window were indeed found open.

[Gadfly2.1]

I will also add, from that analysis, you can update your working theories for what happened that night and test the validity of statements made by witnesses.

[Alfred R Jones]

You're certainly right.  That is evidence of 'something.'  In these scenarios, the next step is to analyse forensically the window and room and see who has been handling it / been present in the room.  That will be indicative of who interfered with the window or shutter.

Thank god.  Someone with a modicum of sense. 

[Gadfly2.1]

Having first confirmed that the shutters and window were indeed found open.

Agreed - and in this case,  witnesses can attest to an open window and the fact that the McCanns were stating it was open.  Which when tallied up with the forensic evidence leads to a worrying conclusion.

[Brietta]

needed to be said!  I must confess, we do laugh at some of the sillyness of her posts

The intellegence posturing is too funny for words sometimes!

on topic: No hard evidence Maddie was abducted via windows.whoooosh!

Then...

Brietta said"However back to the nitty gritty ... hard evidence ... can't get much harder than unidentified fingerprints and hair samples. I'm unsure from where in the apartment the so far unidentified prints were lifted or how many are involved.
The middle finger and index finger of Madeleine's mother's left hand were lifted from the inside of the window pane; were the other three the ones which were circulated to other countries and which remain unidentified?"


Unidetified means no one knows who they belong to. SO please explain the hard evidence they belong to an 'abductor'.

How very bloody carelss of him/her leaving a couple of hairs and a fingerprint.. mind you he did wipe his DNA from the 'window' and 'shutters' ooh err I say! I do love a clean,tidy man.

Oh Lordy, Lordy ~ does that mean ~ %#£% ~ fingerprints and hair samples are not 'evidence' until identified??

[G-Unit]

Agreed - and in this case,  witnesses can attest to an open window and the fact that the McCanns were stating it was open.  Which when tallied up with the forensic evidence leads to a worrying conclusion.

Which witnesses attested to the open window?

[Gadfly2.1]

G-Unit - a young worker named Amy.