Author Topic: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?  (Read 433542 times)

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Offline mercury

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #885 on: May 25, 2015, 08:47:59 PM »
As I understand it with a CDA.

A quick google brings up kitchen appliances! What's a CDA?

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Offline mercury

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #886 on: May 25, 2015, 08:52:55 PM »
Oh mercury, I dont believe it.

Maybe you are new to the scene, but Kate says that the window was shut when they went out.  When she came back, it was open.  Dont you remember Kate saying about the door slamming and the curtains whooshing?  The window had to be open for that.

The discussion was about how the window came to be opened from the outside as per Heribert's theory.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #887 on: May 25, 2015, 09:09:47 PM »
A quick google brings up kitchen appliances! What's a CDA?

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Ask Brietta and one or two others I make reference to it a lot; they have never queried it so either know or unlike you are too embarrassed to show they don't.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline pegasus

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #888 on: May 25, 2015, 09:41:34 PM »
According to Kate Mccann the window was closed, as it had been all week, so how did the intruder open it from outside?
Give the closed window a tiny sideways push and it slides open.
There is hard video evidence of this.

Offline mercury

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #889 on: May 25, 2015, 09:53:40 PM »
Ask Brietta and one or two others I make reference to it a lot; they have never queried it so either know or unlike you are too embarrassed to show they don't.

I'd rather not if it's OK as all responses to questions and comments come as a sarcastic scolding and a lesson or accusation or two rammed

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Offline mercury

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #890 on: May 25, 2015, 09:56:05 PM »
Give the closed window a tiny sideways push and it slides open.
There is hard video evidence of this.

If a window with a handle is closed, I don't believe it can just be slid open but if there is video evidence of this, I'd love to see it. What's the point of a handle/closing mechanism then?

Offline pegasus

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #891 on: May 25, 2015, 10:00:35 PM »
Like I said, the photos taken in the apartment that same night are hard evidence.
For example if we want to know what was at a certain location in the apartment. A photo taken that night is hard evidence of what was there. No guessing required. IMO the PJ photo evidence can be used to show that a certain accusation by the original joint investigation was illogical at best.

Offline mercury

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #892 on: May 25, 2015, 10:03:35 PM »
Like I said, the photos taken in the apartment that same night are hard evidence.
For example if we want to know what was at a certain location in the apartment. A photo taken that night is hard evidence of what was there. No guessing required. IMO the PJ photo evidence can be used to show that a certain accusation by the original joint investigation was illogical at best.

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Offline Carana

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #893 on: May 25, 2015, 10:31:32 PM »
The open window and shutter has always bothered me but there is another possibility which has never to my knowledge been explored.

A burglar could have again targeted block 5 thinking the occupants were all out, lifted the shutter and opened the window.  Realising he had just disturbed a young child he panicks and scarpers.  The scared Madeleine then gets up only to find her parents gone so attempts to look for them, opens the unlocked front door and disappears into the night.

Not impossible, in theory, and I'd wondered about it as well, but I just can't imagine a not-quite-four-year-old quietly going out of the front door into the night into what may have seemed like a creepy parking lot having just been frightened by a bogeyman.


Offline Carana

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #894 on: May 25, 2015, 10:44:52 PM »
Would the child get onto the bed to be lifted though? Surely at 4 she is old enough to be wary of strangers and keep well away thought she would be too scared and it was dark in the room too.

Nothing's impossible, but I just can't imagine why a child of that age would happily wander off towards a stranger who'd lifted a noisy blind and opened a window at night.

Wandering off towards a puppy or kitten during the day, yes, but would even that kind of lure work at night?

Offline pegasus

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #895 on: May 25, 2015, 11:16:33 PM »
Nothing's impossible, but I just can't imagine why a child of that age would happily wander off towards a stranger who'd lifted a noisy blind and opened a window at night.

Wandering off towards a puppy or kitten during the day, yes, but would even that kind of lure work at night?
Why not look at the instinctive direction instead?
And BTW there is a huge physical clue confirming what the direction was.

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #896 on: May 25, 2015, 11:32:08 PM »
The more her story changes the less it can be trusted.

Jane Tanner's story has not changed ... if you think it has, I think you should explain exactly how.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #897 on: May 25, 2015, 11:57:31 PM »
Why not look at the instinctive direction instead?
And BTW there is a huge physical clue confirming what the direction was.

Why not answer my question, how could a closed window be opened from outside? If you have evidence it wasn't closed, please share it.

Offline mercury

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #898 on: May 26, 2015, 12:01:28 AM »
Jane Tanner's story has not changed ... if you think it has, I think you should explain exactly how.

Other people are changing it for her it seems.....

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The ones you call armchair detectives but normally pour scorn over (unless it suits not to)


Offline pathfinder73

Re: Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #899 on: May 26, 2015, 12:22:19 AM »
According to Kate Mccann the window was closed, as it had been all week, so how did the intruder open it from outside?

Pegasus thinks he got lucky finding an unlocked window after lifting noisy shutters but the kids wouldn't hear them. They have to ignore the obvious to try and find their truth. A door was said to be moved and Tannerman was the one. Their abductor has gone - SY have got rid so all eyes are now on the hidden less important one. But not for number 1 enemy Amaral. That man was firmly in his sights. Somebody was in the apartment not via the window and took her out not via the window and he is still unidentified.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.