Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?

[G-Unit]

Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?

Well there would appear to be no hard evidence of this organisation.

Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?

I can think of some.

The only fingerprints on the window were Kate McCann's. The McCanns had a private investigation company working for them the week after Madeleine disappeared, despite it being against the law in Portugal. Kate McCann seems to have driven the Renault whilst uninsured. On 4th May Gerald McCann couldn't remember which door he used on 3rd May. Within an hour of their daughter disappearing the parents deleted all their messages and all their call history from their mobile phones. From 4th May the McCanns and Paynes had 2 PAYG mobiles which the PJ didn't know about.

[ferryman]

Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?

I can think of some.

The only fingerprints on the window were Kate McCann's. The McCanns had a private investigation company working for them the week after Madeleine disappeared, despite it being against the law in Portugal. Kate McCann seems to have driven the Renault whilst uninsured. On 4th May Gerald McCann couldn't remember which door he used on 3rd May. Within an hour of their daughter disappearing the parents deleted all their messages and all their call history from their mobile phones. From 4th May the McCanns and Paynes had 2 PAYG mobiles which the PJ didn't know about.

Actually this thread (also Carana's) is better:

http://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7765

The second sentence is also wrong.

[G-Unit]

Actually this thread (also Carana's) is better:

http://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7765

The second sentence is also wrong.

VESTIGES COLLECTED
5….. Fingerprints….Inside interior window of the children’s bedroom…
Observations: The fingerprint traces collected are identified as being the middle finger of the left hand (3x) and forefinger of the left hand (2x), of the missing girl’s mother,
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm

[G-Unit]

Actually this thread (also Carana's) is better:

http://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7765

The second sentence is also wrong.

I think that submitted, is this the company investigating on behalf of Gerry and Kate'”
 Reply    “Yeah, yeah, but the time, the timeline was done by us and us alone, the one that you got out yesterday”.
1578    “Okay.  So ‘Control Risk’ needs to come out'”
 Reply    “Yeah, so I don’t know whether we gave, we probably gave them a copy as well, although I don’t remember specifically, but, you know, Gerry, Gerry had a copy of the file just as, as we did, but Control Risk, I don’t think were even, were even there at that point”.
1578    “Okay”.
 Reply    “Erm, and so that was a timeline that was made purely by the nine of us, erm, and, yeah, so Control Risk, certainly Control Risk had no part of it.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

[misty]

I think that submitted, is this the company investigating on behalf of Gerry and Kate'”
 Reply    “Yeah, yeah, but the time, the timeline was done by us and us alone, the one that you got out yesterday”.
1578    “Okay.  So ‘Control Risk’ needs to come out'”
 Reply    “Yeah, so I don’t know whether we gave, we probably gave them a copy as well, although I don’t remember specifically, but, you know, Gerry, Gerry had a copy of the file just as, as we did, but Control Risk, I don’t think were even, were even there at that point”.
1578    “Okay”.
 Reply    “Erm, and so that was a timeline that was made purely by the nine of us, erm, and, yeah, so Control Risk, certainly Control Risk had no part of it.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

Control Risks are not a private investigation company.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Risks
*snipped*
Control Risks is a global risk and strategic consulting firm specialising in political, security and integrity risk. Operating from 36 offices, the company’s primary services include anti-corruption audits, consultancy and training, eDiscovery, political risk analysis and a broad range of security and crisis management support.[2]

[Brietta]

Control Risks are not a private investigation company.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Risks
*snipped*
Control Risks is a global risk and strategic consulting firm specialising in political, security and integrity risk. Operating from 36 offices, the company’s primary services include anti-corruption audits, consultancy and training, eDiscovery, political risk analysis and a broad range of security and crisis management support.[2]

Who brought Control Risks in ... reading their remit it looks like they would be an appropriate choice for a company like Mark Warner to have links to?

[Alice Purjorick]

Who brought Control Risks in ... reading their remit it looks like they would be an appropriate choice for a company like Mark Warner to have links to?

I rather suspect you have it in one.

[ShiningInLuz]

Belong to YOUR Organisations?   Of course they dont.
It was quite clear that I was talking about YOUR side, but you had to change its meaning, for some reason?.  Why?
Any reasonable person would realise that Kates first re-action would be to look in cupboards, under beds etc

And the sordid truth would dawn on her, that she had been abducted.  It would be a natural reaction to shout out her name.

Wouldn't you have bothered?

Neither to search for Madeleine in those first precious minutes, nor to call out to her?

Hmmm 

It would be a natural reaction to shout out her name.

Do we have any evidence this happened?  Is it in Kate's statement (first only, as second got chopped too soon)?  Is it in Kate's book?  Does Mrs Fenn recall this primal scream?

I am having a bit of a bad time on accuracy at the moment, so have I mucked up again?

[DCI]

Who brought Control Risks in ... reading their remit it looks like they would be an appropriate choice for a company like Mark Warner to have links to?

Seems it was a donor, Brietta!

On 24 September Control Risks, a British security company, took hair samples from the McCann twins at their parents' request. An anonymous donor paid for Control Risks' services. The McCanns were concerned that the abductor might have given the children sedatives; the twins had slept through the commotion in apartment 5A after Madeleine was reported missing, but despite requests the Portuguese police had not taken samples. Control Risks took a sample from Kate McCann too, to rebut allegations that she was on medication. No trace of drugs was found.[110]

[sadie]

Since you won't tell us what this organisation is, how are we supposed to know whose side they are on?

Interrupting too important a thread ... so previous post deleted.


Congratulations to Carana for her efforts in
http://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7765

Thanks for alerting us Ferryman ... an impressive analysis.and well worth the read.

[G-Unit]

Actually this thread (also Carana's) is better:

http://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7765

The second sentence is also wrong.

I don't know what that thread is about, but it has nothing to do with my point. The only fingerprints on the children's bedroom window were Kate McCann's.

[stephen25000]

Interrupting too important a thread ... so previous post deleted.


Congratulations to Carana for her efforts in
http://stopthemyths.info/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=7765

Thanks for alerting us Ferryman ... an impressive analysis.and well worth the read.

Oh dear, quoting 'stop the myths'.

That's a good one.

Now just read Blacksmith's analysis of that site and the posters on it.

[Alfred R Jones]

I don't know what that thread is about, but it has nothing to do with my point. The only fingerprints on the children's bedroom window were Kate McCann's.

And this is hard evidence that Kate McCann had been in the children's bedroom - very sus.

[G-Unit]

And this is hard evidence that Kate McCann had been in the children's bedroom - very sus.

Also that she seems to have been the only person who touched that window on 3rd May 2007.

[Benice]

Also that she seems to have been the only person who touched that window on 3rd May 2007.

How can anyone know for sure when she touched it?   It could have been at the beginning of the holiday on the day they closed the shutters and left them closed.