Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?

[Alfred R Jones]

Amaral should have taken the clothes off them on the 4th. Big mistake as they were washed on the 5th. You pack clothes in bags and if there's no twins hair found in the boot but the missing girl's then it doesn't take a genius to work out where they came from.

With every post you demonstrate how you misunderstand (wilfully or not it's hard to tell) the evidence.

[Carana]

Amaral should have taken the clothes off them on the 4th. Big mistake as they were washed on the 5th. You pack clothes in bags and if there's no twins hair found in the boot but the missing girl's then it doesn't take a genius to work out where they came from.

They should have taken which clothes off whom?

[pathfinder73]

They should have taken which clothes off whom?

The family who lived there for examining asap. You eliminate the family first in these cases. Simple.

[Admin]

Amaral should have taken the clothes off them on the 4th. Big mistake as they were washed on the 5th. You pack clothes in bags and if there's no twins hair found in the boot but the missing girl's then it doesn't take a genius to work out where they came from.

A magistrate will only authorise a search and seize warrant on the basis of evidence which in this case was not immediately available until much later.

In the case of a missing child, police have to tread very carefully and exercise some compassion regardless of what they are thinking privately.

[Carana]

The family who lived there for examining asap. You eliminate the family first in these cases. Simple.

LOL So you reckon they should have been stripped naked that night in order to eliminate them?

[pathfinder73]

A magistrate will only authorise a search and seize warrant on the basis of evidence.

There was no evidence of a break-in or an abduction and fingerprints found on the window so that is enough evidence to investigate the family asap. Also tampering of the crime scene.

[ferryman]

There was never any clue to be had from examination of clothing.

[Angelo222]

it's completely different.....in the previous investigation the mccanns were arguidos...now they are not

Watch this space?

[Alfred R Jones]

Watch this space?

For how long?

[misty]

There was never any clue to be had from examination of clothing.

The PJ bagged up certain clothing from the Murat villa. Whatever happened to the forensics on those items (and why didn't Eddie & Keela get to have a sniff?).

[pegasus]

- There was no way of knowing whether the hairs in 5A were actually hers or not. It wasn't her hair that was important, it was attempting to find a sample of her DNA.

- Unless the laundry lady was familiar with Madeleine's clothes (why would she be?), the fact that a load supposedly with the "McCann" account on it means nothing as MW would logically have picked up the tab as part of their support for associated odd-bods who either stayed beyond their holiday-time or came out to help the family.

- What were the errors of the first hour? The only thing that comes to mind that he's ever mentioned is that the police didn't take photos of what everyone was wearing that night. Another, but hardly of the first hour, was that he didn't think to get his officers to check CCTV images before they got wiped a week later.

There is a statement (Cravinho) about clothing being taken by MW to the OC laundry on Sat 5th. Also there is hard evidences that a small quantity of clothing was taken from 5A on Fri 4th and then the majority of it taken from 5A on Sat 5th, so the evidence (photographs) matches the statement.

[mercury]

The PJ bagged up certain clothing from the Murat villa. Whatever happened to the forensics on those items (and why didn't Eddie & Keela get to have a sniff?).

Eddie and keela had a sniff as you put it at murats house, nothing to report, unlike 5a where they both alerted, troublesome anyway you look at it

[misty]

Eddie and keela had a sniff as you put it at murats house, nothing to report, unlike 5a where they both alerted, troublesome anyway you look at it

The clothes the PJ seized in May 2007 were not at the Murat villa when Eddie & Keela went there. They were not returned to him until 2008.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id218.html   
Police give Murat computers back The Press Association

Released 23 March 2008, 01:18am

Portuguese police have returned computers and other possessions they seized from Madeleine McCann "suspect" Robert Murat, he has said.

He described the move as a "very positive sign" - but is still waiting to be officially cleared of involvement in the young girl's disappearance.

Mr Murat, 34, lives just yards from the holiday apartment in the Portuguese seaside resort of Praia da Luz where Madeleine vanished on May 3 last year.

Detectives took him in for questioning 11 days after the child went missing and made him the first "arguido", or formal suspect, in the case.

They also searched the villa he shares with his mother and seized a number of his possessions, including three computers, clothes and a pair of shoes.

Police returned these items to Mr Murat on Thursday, although they did not give any clues about the progress of their investigation.

The Anglo-Portuguese ex-pat said: "It is a very positive sign - there's no doubt about that whatsoever. Why would they return something if it was in the middle of being investigated in any way, shape or form?

"We are very happy to have the computers back, and I hope I will have my arguido status dropped very shortly."

Mr Murat said he was "considering his options" for taking legal action over allegedly libellous articles printed about him in the wake of the apologies to Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, published by four national newspapers this week.

He strenuously denies any involvement in the missing girl's disappearance, as do fellow arguidos Mr and Mrs McCann

[mercury]

If you think murat abducted madeleine mccann why not just say it? But we both suspect its so unlikely and quite a pathetic theory

Try harder misty, but for now, goodnight

[misty]

If you think murat abducted madeleine mccann why not just say it? But we both suspect its so unlikely and quite a pathetic theory

Try harder misty, but for now, goodnight

I was pointing out that hard evidence seized from one of the arguidos was not subjected to the same "forensic" examination as that belonging to the McCanns - which, given the number of witnesses who put him at the scene that night, seems rather an oversight.