Author Topic: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?  (Read 194950 times)

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OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #285 on: May 04, 2015, 06:22:40 PM »
Has anyone asserted this on this thread?

No. But it is right on topic considering the title of the thread.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #286 on: May 04, 2015, 06:23:19 PM »
On a permanent state of alert, is Eddie.......what with blood of all ages and stages of decomposition and pig flesh..........non-stop head- in- the -air and woofing.

Or is it only if the handler suspects, consciously or unconsciously that one or both may be present and directs him to alert?
Gosh, that's a bold admission!  You've obviously read the link in my signature line...

Offline jassi

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #287 on: May 04, 2015, 06:25:49 PM »
The amount of effort that goes into rubbishing these dogs is amazing when you consider that their finding are reputed to be of no consequence  @)(++(*
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #288 on: May 04, 2015, 06:29:11 PM »
The amount of effort that goes into rubbishing these dogs is amazing when you consider that their finding are reputed to be of no consequence  @)(++(*
If "sceptics" accepted that dogs alerts are meaningless without corroborative evidence and that handler bias can effect their performance there would be no need for these discussions at all.

OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #289 on: May 04, 2015, 06:36:59 PM »
The amount of effort that goes into rubbishing these dogs is amazing when you consider that their finding are reputed to be of no consequence  @)(++(*

The amount of effort put into pretending that they are infallible or provide serious evidence has been amazing considering the facts derived from scientific experiments deny all those claims.

With dog alerts and the DNA shown to be unscientific myth, Amaral's hypothesis falls and there is absolutely no indication that the McCanns were guilty of anything. Much as the AG decided n behalf of the Portuguese Justice system all those years ago.

Dogs are fallible
The DNA evidence was completely misinterpreted
The McCanns are innocent.

All that is left are bands of people getting their rocks off on perceived human misery.

Offline jassi

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #290 on: May 04, 2015, 06:41:39 PM »
If "sceptics" accepted that dogs alerts are meaningless without corroborative evidence and that handler bias can effect their performance there would be no need for these discussions at all.

And so you have to beaver on. Must be so galling to realise that it has such little effect.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #291 on: May 04, 2015, 06:43:16 PM »
And so you have to beaver on. Must be so galling to realise that it has such little effect.
Human stupidity / stubbornness / malice is always galling to witness.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #292 on: May 04, 2015, 06:43:43 PM »
The amount of effort put into pretending that they are infallible or provide serious evidence has been amazing considering the facts derived from scientific experiments deny all those claims.

With dog alerts and the DNA shown to be unscientific myth, Amaral's hypothesis falls and there is absolutely no indication that the McCanns were guilty of anything. Much as the AG decided n behalf of the Portuguese Justice system all those years ago.

Dogs are fallible
The DNA evidence was completely misinterpreted
The McCanns are innocent.

All that is left are bands of people getting their rocks off on perceived human misery.

Just another believer then.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #293 on: May 04, 2015, 06:44:51 PM »
Just another believer then.
Do you not believe wholeheartedly in the infallibility of the dogs?

Offline jassi

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #294 on: May 04, 2015, 06:47:17 PM »
Human stupidity / stubbornness / malice is always galling to witness.


It must be such a trial having to devote so many hours to this site - and for such little reward.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Carew

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #295 on: May 04, 2015, 06:48:30 PM »
Gosh, that's a bold admission!  You've obviously read the link in my signature line...


Not quite............My "admission" ends with a question mark.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #296 on: May 04, 2015, 06:50:54 PM »
The amount of effort put into pretending that they are infallible or provide serious evidence has been amazing considering the facts derived from scientific experiments deny all those claims.

With dog alerts and the DNA shown to be unscientific myth, Amaral's hypothesis falls and there is absolutely no indication that the McCanns were guilty of anything. Much as the AG decided n behalf of the Portuguese Justice system all those years ago.

Dogs are fallible
The DNA evidence was completely misinterpreted
The McCanns are innocent.

All that is left are bands of people getting their rocks off on perceived human misery.

That about covers it on here I guess. Apart from slinging insults etc.
One presumes you must believe your input here will have a significant impact on the behaviour of folk otherwise you would not be doing it ? Your targeted "market" is not exactly extensive.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #297 on: May 04, 2015, 06:52:35 PM »

It must be such a trial having to devote so many hours to this site - and for such little reward.
Don't worry, I'll get my reward in Heaven.  @)(++(*

OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #298 on: May 04, 2015, 06:54:11 PM »
Just another believer then.



Never been a believer, always a fundamental sceptic about any information.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #299 on: May 04, 2015, 06:54:16 PM »

Not quite............My "admission" ends with a question mark.
Oh, shame - I thought at least one of you had had an amazing revelation.  Never mind, back to the "dogs are never wrong" mantra for you then.