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OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #300 on: May 04, 2015, 06:57:37 PM »
Oh, shame - I thought at least one of you had had an amazing revelation.  Never mind, back to the "dogs are never wrong" mantra for you then.

There is extensive psychological research on the triumph of belief over reality.

One of the interesting findings is that people with fixed beliefs are usually actually confirmed in them by rational argument.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #301 on: May 04, 2015, 07:00:10 PM »
There is extensive psychological research on the triumph of belief over reality.

One of the interesting findings is that people with fixed beliefs are usually actually confirmed in them by rational argument.
Yes, I've seen this for myself on here and also on a Creationist site I used to visit.  The more you argue with them, the more logic and rationale you present, the more irrefutable evidence you link to, the more entrenched in their views they become.  Bizarre!

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #302 on: May 04, 2015, 07:00:15 PM »
SY have told you they're significant spending millions searching for evidence of a body. They wouldn't be searching for a body if Eddie didn't alert. I wonder when new forensics are happening  &%+((£
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #303 on: May 04, 2015, 07:04:32 PM »
SY have told you they're significant spending millions searching for evidence of a body. They wouldn't be searching for a body if Eddie didn't alert. I wonder when new forensics are happening  &%+((£

When did SY say they were searching for a body? When did they say they were doing it to the exclusion of every other avenue.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #304 on: May 04, 2015, 07:07:52 PM »
When did SY say they were searching for a body? When did they say they were doing it to the exclusion of every other avenue.

They haven't said it but their own actions prove they are searching for a body. When you see them chasing any sightings around the world please let me know.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #305 on: May 04, 2015, 07:12:00 PM »
Yes, I've seen this for myself on here and also on a Creationist site I used to visit.  The more you argue with them, the more logic and rationale you present, the more irrefutable evidence you link to, the more entrenched in their views they become.  Bizarre!

There is an excellent book written by a psychologist who joined a millennial cult in order to do participant observation. The main point of interest was that despite repeated dates identified by the cult leader for the rapture, and such dates being regularly disappointing, the more this happened, the stronger the belief became because they had too much ego identity invested in the belief system and the cost of changing ones mind was almost equivalent to loss of life. So they kept believing beyond rationality.

This case has never had enough evidence to plump for any explanation. Amaral was wrong and the AG was right.

All we are left with is true believers with too much to lose if hey admit their error. The brightest and most moral of the McCann [ censored word ]s have quietly slipped away and regained their lives while the true fanatics have gone to twitter.

Fascinating.

Offline jassi

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #306 on: May 04, 2015, 07:12:19 PM »
Holes and dogs certainly sounds a bit like a body search scenario.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #307 on: May 04, 2015, 07:13:32 PM »
They haven't said it but their own actions prove they are searching for a body. When you see them chasing any sightings around the world please let me know.

In your ever so humble opinion. Latest suggestion is that they are still following up abduction by people involved in various illegal events around that time.

We shall see.

Offline jassi

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #308 on: May 04, 2015, 07:17:17 PM »
In your ever so humble opinion. Latest suggestion is that they are still following up abduction by people involved in various illegal events around that time.

We shall see.


Indeed we shall.  Well, maybe.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #309 on: May 04, 2015, 07:18:57 PM »
There is an excellent book written by a psychologist who joined a millennial cult in order to do participant observation. The main point of interest was that despite repeated dates identified by the cult leader for the rapture, and such dates being regularly disappointing, the more this happened, the stronger the belief became because they had too much ego identity invested in the belief system and the cost of changing ones mind was almost equivalent to loss of life. So they kept believing beyond rationality.

This case has never had enough evidence to plump for any explanation. Amaral was wrong and the AG was right.

All we are left with is true believers with too much to lose if hey admit their error. The brightest and most moral of the McCann [ censored word ] have quietly slipped away and regained their lives while the true fanatics have gone to twitter.

Fascinating.
Funnily enough I made a comparison on this site shortly before you signed up between those End-Of-The-World cultists and the Amaral fanclub who had predicted his victory in the legal case.  A resounding disappointment is not enough to dissuade them that they won't be proven right the next time - you have to admire their optimism!

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #310 on: May 04, 2015, 07:20:13 PM »
They haven't said it but their own actions prove they are searching for a body. When you see them chasing any sightings around the world please let me know.
You seem to be of the opinion that the Met has definitive proof of Madeleine's death - what sort of proof do you imagine they have uncovered?

Offline Carew

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #311 on: May 04, 2015, 07:24:41 PM »
Try explaining why non-stop alerts do not "dog" every investigation and search at every site everywhere due to the widespread presence of contaminants previously mentioned?

It must be quite simple...........you have the research/ evidence at your fingertips.

Resorting to "triumph of belief over reality" head shaking doesn`t cut it.




 

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #312 on: May 04, 2015, 07:25:59 PM »
Try explaining why non-stop alerts do not "dog" every investigation and search at every site everywhere due to the widespread presence of contaminants previously mentioned?

It must be quite simple...........you have the research/ evidence at your fingertips.

Resorting to "triumph of belief over reality" head shaking doesn`t cut it.
What's your view on this research Carew?

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/welcome/features/2010-2011/02/20110223_drug_dogs.html

Offline Carew

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #313 on: May 04, 2015, 07:30:46 PM »

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #314 on: May 04, 2015, 07:37:37 PM »
You seem to be of the opinion that the Met has definitive proof of Madeleine's death - what sort of proof do you imagine they have uncovered?

If Eddie hadn't alerted this would be another missing child case but as soon as those dogs alerted the police will follow up on those leads. I don't know what proof they have found but they're looking for proof of Madeleine and believe it can be solved.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.