Were the dog alerts in any way significant?

[Carew]

Yes, I've seen this for myself on here and also on a Creationist site I used to visit.  The more you argue with them, the more logic and rationale you present, the more irrefutable evidence you link to, the more entrenched in their views they become.  Bizarre!

Don`t despair !

Use your "irrefutable evidence" to explain points queried........

( Just a suggestion.)

[Brietta]

If Eddie hadn't alerted this would be another missing child case but as soon as those dogs alerted the police will follow up on those leads. I don't know what proof they have found but they're looking for proof of Madeleine and believe it can be solved.

Pathfinder, I am going to break this to you as gently as I can ... Eddie is dead.

[Carew]

There is an excellent book written by a psychologist who joined a millennial cult in order to do participant observation. The main point of interest was that despite repeated dates identified by the cult leader for the rapture, and such dates being regularly disappointing, the more this happened, the stronger the belief became because they had too much ego identity invested in the belief system and the cost of changing ones mind was almost equivalent to loss of life. So they kept believing beyond rationality.

This case has never had enough evidence to plump for any explanation. Amaral was wrong and the AG was right.

All we are left with is true believers with too much to lose if hey admit their error. The brightest and most moral of the McCann [ censored word ] have quietly slipped away and regained their lives while the true fanatics have gone to twitter.

Fascinating.

*tuts*

...........are generalised whine-fests about "McCann Censored Worders" considered to be "on topic", then?

[pathfinder73]

Pathfinder, I am going to break this to you as gently as I can ... Eddie is dead.

I know but he's not dead in this case.

[ferryman]

Eddie's mortal status aside, the answer to the title of the opening post is, no!

[Alfred R Jones]

What`s your answer to my question, "Alfred"

I don't know for sure why dogs aren't permanently alerting all over the place but think you probably got it spot on when you said their handlers direct them to alert - that makes perfect sense, and shows direct influence from handler to dog, does it not?

Now, back to the research I linked to - what is your view of it?

[Alfred R Jones]

If Eddie hadn't alerted this would be another missing child case but as soon as those dogs alerted the police will follow up on those leads. I don't know what proof they have found but they're looking for proof of Madeleine and believe it can be solved.

So, without an alert you would be of the view that Madeleine is still alive would you?  Personally I don't believe they have discovered any proof that Madeleine is dead, but you go on believing the reverse if it makes you happy.

[jassi]

So, without an alert you would be of the view that Madeleine is still alive would you?  Personally I don't believe they have discovered any proof that Madeleine is dead, but you go on believing the reverse if it makes you happy.

I suppose they would need a body or body parts  to be absolutely sure of that

[G-Unit]

Eddie's mortal status aside, the answer to the title of the opening post is, no!

The dog alerts were significant. Both dogs alerted behind the couch in the living room of G5A and to the car. Blood was found, meaning both dogs alerted correctly. Eddie alerted in other places. No blood was found by Keela. Although no hard evidence was found Eddie's alerts shouldn't be ignored because he may have been right.

[pathfinder73]

So, without an alert you would be of the view that Madeleine is still alive would you?  Personally I don't believe they have discovered any proof that Madeleine is dead, but you go on believing the reverse if it makes you happy.

Yes a very good chance of that with no dog alerts but the dogs are telling us somebody stole a dead child from the apartment  &%+((£

[Alfred R Jones]

Yes a very good chance of that with no dog alerts but the dogs are telling us somebody stole a dead child from the apartment  &%+((£

What's your view on this research Pathfinder? http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/welcome/features/2010-2011/02/20110223_drug_dogs.html

[pathfinder73]

What's your view on this research Pathfinder? http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/welcome/features/2010-2011/02/20110223_drug_dogs.html

I will take a look later but if you're working on this case you need to look at the dogs involved not others or general reports.

[Carew]

I don't know for sure why dogs aren't permanently alerting all over the place but think you probably got it spot on when you said their handlers direct them to alert - that makes perfect sense, and shows direct influence from handler to dog, does it not?

Now, back to the research I linked to - what is your view of it?

I had hoped your and others` extensive research and links would be used to explain why the dogs are not permanently alerting all over the place........(.awww !)

After all...........it`s important to apply the research to the case in hand, isn`t it?............Otherwise it could be construed as attempts to bullshit in order to assume superiority to influence or control opinion , perhaps?

You provided the link ...........I expect you can apply it to the case ?

[Alfred R Jones]

I had hoped your and others` extensive research and links would be used to explain why the dogs are not permanently alerting all over the place........(.awww !)

After all...........it`s important to apply the research to the case in hand, isn`t it?............Otherwise it could be construed as attempts to bullshit in order to assume superiority to influence or control opinion , perhaps?

You provided the link ...........I expect you can apply it to the case ?

So can I take it you don't have anything to say about the research I provided a link to?  Research which demonstrates how handler belief can effect the dog's performance?  It raises a question mark over the reliability of dog alerts generally does it not?  If you disagree perhaps you could explain why...

[Carew]

So can I take it you don't have anything to say about the research I provided a link to?  Research which demonstrates how handler belief can effect the dog's performance?  It raises a question mark over the reliability of dog alerts generally does it not?  If you disagree perhaps you could explain why...

How about your applying your "generalised research" into to how the handler`s belief affected the dogs` performance in the specific case under discussion?

Go on.........run it past me............then I might have something relevant to the topic to say about it.