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OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #345 on: May 04, 2015, 10:34:59 PM »
There is in this thread. The English sent their best dogs over to Portugal and the world was watching!

And who was the author, what was the publication, how reliable is the source?

OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #346 on: May 04, 2015, 10:38:40 PM »
Each case has its own set of variables.

Yes. After Clever Hans the plough horse they did follow ups with

Cart horses
Race horses
Shire horses
Shetlands
Dartmoor
Rocking horses and
Clothes horses


NOT.

Such findings generalise.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #347 on: May 04, 2015, 10:41:25 PM »
And who was the author, what was the publication, how reliable is the source?

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id157.html
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #348 on: May 04, 2015, 10:45:18 PM »

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #349 on: May 04, 2015, 11:01:50 PM »

Ah right!.....It was this.........(I would understandably find it less easy to forget.)


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Off topic.

Now back to this:

Is it your view that it is quite impossible for conscious or unconscious handler bias to be a factor in Eddie's alerts?  If so, why do you believe this?

Offline sadie

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #350 on: May 04, 2015, 11:30:47 PM »
Off topic.

Now back to this:

Is it your view that it is quite impossible for conscious or unconscious handler bias to be a factor in Eddie's alerts?  If so, why do you believe this?
There must be an awful lot of pressure to find evidence, on the shoulders of a man that is charging as much as Martin does.

He must want to please his new friends and employers.  Maybe they convinced him that The Mccanns were guilty?
 

Is it possible that unconscious handler bias could have been caused by this pressure?



Because he sure got it wrong about Ccat in that cupboard.

And he sure called Eddie back so many times to the Mccanns car.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #351 on: May 04, 2015, 11:32:01 PM »
It has turned into Crufts again I see. I suppose it should be expected it being an English site and all.
On the whole it would be preferable were it North Korean in this particular instance.
I will catch you next week to see who won best of breed.
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Offline Carew

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #352 on: May 04, 2015, 11:33:43 PM »
It is for those who are citing research into "handler bias" to apply this "research" to the "on topic" case and show how each alert or non-alert was manipulated or affected by "handler bias".





Offline pathfinder73

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #353 on: May 04, 2015, 11:35:15 PM »
There must be an awful lot of pressure to find evidence, on the shoulders of a man that is charging as much as Martin does.

He must want to please his new friends and employers.  Maybe they convinced him that The Mccanns were guilty?
 

Is it possible that unconscious handler bias could have been caused by this pressure?



Because he sure got it wrong about Ccat in that cupboard.

And he sure called Eddie back so many times to the Mccanns car.

These were English dogs so if you think the English wanted to nail the McCanns then you won't think much about the English taking over this case now and searching for a body because of the English dogs. Bloody English 8(>((
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carew

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #354 on: May 04, 2015, 11:38:20 PM »
These were English dogs so if you think the English wanted to nail the McCanns then you won't think much about the English taking over this case now and searching for a body because of the English dogs. Bloody English 8(>((


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OxfordBloo

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Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #355 on: May 04, 2015, 11:39:06 PM »
It is for those who are citing research into "handler bias" to apply this "research" to the "on topic" case and show how each alert or non-alert was manipulated or affected by "handler bias".

You do not understand science.

Information generalises as the nose and the relationship are the same for any scent dog.

Offline sadie

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #356 on: May 04, 2015, 11:44:00 PM »
These were English dogs so if you think the English wanted to nail the McCanns then you won't think much about the English taking over this case now and searching for a body because of the English dogs. Bloody English 8(>((
You Portuguese PF ?

Or Scottish maybe?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #357 on: May 05, 2015, 12:04:13 AM »
You Portuguese PF ?

Or Scottish maybe?

My mother is English from Manchester. I was born and live in the UK.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carew

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #358 on: May 05, 2015, 12:06:43 AM »
You do not understand science.

Information generalises as the nose and the relationship are the same for any scent dog.

Apply your " information generalises as the nose and the relationship are the same for any scent dog"
to all the specific alerts / non-alerts in the case and explain how you feel "handler bias" manifested itself.













Offline sadie

Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« Reply #359 on: May 05, 2015, 12:08:07 AM »
My mother is English from Manchester. I was born and live in the UK.
Why do you stay here if you dislike us so much?

No need to answer that if you dont want to

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