The Tapas Note.

[Robittybob1]

Gerry might be mixing up Monday, when Rachael said they had trouble getting in, and Thursday, which Jane talks about. I don't think the whole group were there though;

I can remember on the morning of the, Thursday morning by the tennis, at the tennis, somebody in our tennis group had tried to book the Tapas and they couldn’t get in because it was already full.  And I can remember thinking at that point, and I just felt, you know, ‘Good’, because they were bloomin’ awkward by booking it out.  And they were sort of saying well it’s a bit ridiculous that they couldn’t have got in because they’d booked, they’d tried to book in, you know, they’d been there at nine o’clock to book in and they still couldn’t get in.  So, we did, at that point, I can remember having this conversation was ‘Oh shall we go somewhere different’, but it never happened, but.  And Kate was, I think Kate was there then, I can’t remember who else, but we did actually say ‘Oh shall we, shall we go somewhere different’.  And I think almost at that point we had considered it, but I think the problem was the kids were so tired after having such full days, I think it was more ‘Well it’s worked every other night’.  But I know definitely from my point of view I felt quite bad that we were taking this, you know, this block booking every night and it was affecting other people using it”.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

Very good work in finding that.  So they momentarily felt guilty for having a block booking  and that was interfering with other Mark Warner clients due to the quota system. 

[G-Unit]

Very good work in finding that.  So they momentarily felt guilty for having a block booking  and that was interfering with other Mark Warner clients due to the quota system.

They? Jane reports feeling guilty, no-one else has as yet.

[John]

Sorry John, but the likelyhood of someone breaking in and abusing your child cannot be so great as the likelyhood of being abused by a stranger who is baby sitting.


To remind you sexual abuse covers a number of scenarios.  I wont go into the details on here, but a simple one below: 

Even certain child/baby nude photos when added to by an expert photoshopper, with additional ermm ... "porn stuff/ people" can be sent around the world in a matter of minutes. 

Your child has been abused, someone has made a lot of money ... and that abuse will never go away.  You may never know, altho you might, if some perv in your neighbourhood sees the photoshopped photos and recognises your child.


Of course there are several other ways that your child may have been abused, but here is not the place

Can I remind you of the obvious in at least as far as the abduction theory goes.  That someone did get in, they didn't even need to break in, Madeleine was taken and they have had ten years to abuse. Pretty awful stuff in the scale of things wouldn't you agree?

And all so unnecessary had the parents had obeyed some simple rules.

[John]

There are a lot of similarities John, if one has a big garden and enjoys entertaining.

I don't know about you but I don't have Joe Public wandering around my back garden.

[John]

Madeleine is still alive, puglove ... or was in 2012.  Of that i am pretty sure

And a child that has been cared for, as i believe Madeleine has, is unlikely to have been murdered.  A bond develops between the keeper and the child


It is my belief that the instant that Madeleines eye defect and the interest of the World centred on her, she became a "hot potato".  Her photoghraphs were every where.   She became so hot that nothing untoward happened to her ...and they kept her hidden for a very long time.  They never intended to murder her, but they had a purpose for her.
 

If she were eventually discovered, some convincing tale was already in place to present the person who had her as a kindly soul who was looking after a poor lost child



Only my opinion, but based upon a multitude of pointers that none of you have seen.  My investigations, and YES they were very long and very deep investigations, took a path that no-one else thought of.

I always know that I could be wrong, but with so many pointers and police interest, I rather think I might be right.  I hope so.



Good night John.  I am off to bed now.

Forum rules allow you to freely express an opinion and that is to be respected but it is only right that I point out that there isn't any evidence either way that Madeleine is alive or dead, at least Scotland Yard have admitted that much.  Any suggestion or claim to the contrary is merely pie in the sky!

[sadie]

Can I remind you of the obvious in at least as far as the abduction theory goes.  That someone did get in, they didn't even need to break in, Madeleine was taken and they have had ten years to abuse. Pretty awful stuff in the scale of things wouldn't you agree?

And all so unnecessary had the parents had obeyed some simple rules.

In Madeleines case she wasn't taken to abuse, as a child.  She was protected.  However, she had a use later IMO

AIMHO

[stephen25000]

We do not know who, if anyone, took Madeleine Sadie.

[sadie]

Can I remind you of the obvious in at least as far as the abduction theory goes.  That someone did get in, they didn't even need to break in, Madeleine was taken and they have had ten years to abuse. Pretty awful stuff in the scale of things wouldn't you agree?

And all so unnecessary had the parents had obeyed some simple rules.

They thought that they were safe.  They thought that the front was secure and the group of friends could see the patio and patio entrance, which was illuminated from the street lamp immediately opposite 5A from only 50 metres away.

The Mccanns made an unknowing error.
;they were desperately unlucky.

John, I see that YOU have seriously altered my post AGAIN, cutting huge chunks out and altering the meaning.  This is NOT FAIR

IMO, all our side should decamp and leave you to it, if this continues.

Several of us have been affected including davel, ferryman, Alfie, benice, misty and others.   I have never seen misty or benice put a foot wrong.

Your side WILL WIN EVERY TIME if we are not allowed to Counter with the FACTS of the Mccann case.  With all our often deeply researched answers wiped, there will be nobody showing how wrong your side so often is.



UNFAIR ... in fact it is beginning to look like a CHEATING FORUM.  Please reassure us

[stephen25000]

They thought that they were safe.  They thought that the front was secure and the group of friends could see the patio and patio entrance, which was illuminated from the street lamp immediately opposite 5A from only 50 metres away.

The Mccanns made an unknowing error.
;they were desperately unlucky.

Yet the Mccanns locked the apartment during the day, but not at night.

Ipso facto, they knew the apartment wasn't safe to be left unlocked, yet they still did at night. &%+((£

[sadie]

I don't know about you but I don't have Joe Public wandering around my back garden.

Joe Public did not wander around 5A back garden; they had to open a gate to get in.  At the front too, just like in our front garden, they had to come in via a relatively narrow entrance on to what was very obviously a private area.

We lived on a main ring road and we left the side gate and the back door open, but in those days it felt very safe, when we were in the back garden.   I wouldn't risk it now, things have changed. 

PdL still feels safe, it is a relatively refined sort of place with old ladies and families wandering around.   You [and all of uis] know better now tho SIL, but would you agree that on the surface Luz feels very safe?

[Robittybob1]

Yet the Mccanns locked the apartment during the day, but not at night.

Ipso facto, they knew the apartment wasn't safe to be left unlocked, yet they still did at night. &%+((£

So they could be checked without waking them up.

[stephen25000]

Joe Public did not wander around 5A back garden; they had to open a gate to get in.  At the front too, just like in our front garden, they had to come in via a relatively narrow entrance on to what was very obviously a private area.

We lived on a main ring road and we left the side gate and the back door open, but in those days it felt very safe, when we were in the back garden.   I wouldn't risk it now, things have changed. 

PdL still feels safe, it is a relatively refined sort of place with old ladies and families wandering around.   You [and all of uis] know better now tho SIL, but would you agree that on the surface Luz feels very safe?

It was a Bar and Restaurant Sadie.

Not a back garden.

[stephen25000]

So they could be checked without waking them up.

Unlocking an entrance door with a key Sadie, will not wake up children.

[sadie]

Yet the Mccanns locked the apartment during the day, but not at night.

Ipso facto, they knew the apartment wasn't safe to be left unlocked, yet they still did at night. &%+((£

Same as us.
If we went out, we locked our house.
If we were in the garden where we could see it, it was left unlocked, day or after dark.

My bet is that the Mccanns left the patio door closed but unlocked when they were in the tapas area able to keep an eye on it.  So convenient for snacks, drinks, the lavatory, towels, dry clothes, sun oil, etc.   But I dont know the exact situation, and neither do you.

[G-Unit]

I could not see my children either, but I could hear them if they shouted or cried hard.

A mother is especially tuned into the cries of her own children

Not every mother. I didn't hear my baby's cries at night because I sleep very deeply. I slept through the smoke alarm a few weeks age. I used to have several alarm clocks to get me up for work. It's very embarrassing if you stay at a relative's and they have to come in and wake you when your baby cries. (My husband slept through it too). So like the 'instant overwhelming love' new mothers are supposed to feel, it's not universal. There are many variations.