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Offline Carew

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #225 on: June 03, 2015, 09:47:00 AM »
Kate isn't doing the charity run to raise money for herself is she?

People have been making numerous donations to the fund for Amaral splitting their donations into small amounts and donating many times to make the numbers look good.

They lied saying the fund would help Madeleine,  people were sucked in by that.

Then the donation by ahem Police officers,   which really needs to be looked into as that is just disgusting.


Perhaps another dossier is called for..........Maybe present it to the police and get these people dealt with!


Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #226 on: June 03, 2015, 09:48:44 AM »
If the boot was on the other foot, mccann supporters would be gloating.

As is obvious from comments pages in the mail, support for the mccanns has been dwindling for some time.

Maybe those who raised over £40,000 in three days to enable a challenge to be made to MP Alistair Carmichael have room to "gloat" ... I think what the Gofundme exercise on behalf of Goncalo Amaral illustrates yet again is the small number of dyed in the wool supporters there actually are.
The accompanying comments section illustrates the antipathy this hard core has for the parents of a missing child.

A casual observer might be led to wonder why the Portuguese Justice System is in such a state a Portuguese citizen has to be funded by the British to attain it ... but they will immediately pick up on the mean spirited sentiments expressed, motivated by an almost pathological malice directed at the parents of a missing child and wonder at the mentality behind it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline carlymichelle

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #227 on: June 03, 2015, 09:51:08 AM »
Maybe those who raised over £40,000 in three days to enable a challenge to be made to MP Alistair Carmichael have room to "gloat" ... I think what the Gofundme exercise on behalf of Goncalo Amaral illustrates yet again is the small number of dyed in the wool supporters there actually are.
The accompanying comments section illustrates the antipathy this hard core has for the parents of a missing child.

A casual observer might be led to wonder why the Portuguese Justice System is in such a state a Portuguese citizen has to be funded by the British to attain it ... but they will immediately pick up on the mean spirited sentiments expressed, motivated by an almost pathological malice directed at the parents of a missing child and wonder at the mentality behind it.

maddie wouldnt be missing without the actions of her parents its called parental responsibility and they had  none

Offline G-Unit

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #228 on: June 03, 2015, 09:56:14 AM »
Kate isn't doing the charity run to raise money for herself is she?

People have been making numerous donations to the fund for Amaral splitting their donations into small amounts and donating many times to make the numbers look good.

They lied saying the fund would help Madeleine,  people were sucked in by that.

Then the donation by ahem Police officers,   which really needs to be looked into as that is just disgusting.

Goncalo Amaral isn't raising money for himself. His friends and Leanne Baulch are raising money to pay his lawyers to prepare and file his appeal. I don't know who said the fund would help Madeleine?  Why is it disgusting that police officers should demonstrate solidarity with a fellow policeman? What is clear is that some people think there are unanswered questions in this case which are connected to Madeleine's parents.
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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #229 on: June 03, 2015, 09:59:18 AM »
Maybe those who raised over £40,000 in three days to enable a challenge to be made to MP Alistair Carmichael have room to "gloat" ... I think what the Gofundme exercise on behalf of Goncalo Amaral illustrates yet again is the small number of dyed in the wool supporters there actually are.
The accompanying comments section illustrates the antipathy this hard core has for the parents of a missing child.

A casual observer might be led to wonder why the Portuguese Justice System is in such a state a Portuguese citizen has to be funded by the British to attain it ... but they will immediately pick up on the mean spirited sentiments expressed, motivated by an almost pathological malice directed at the parents of a missing child and wonder at the mentality behind it.

Examples?
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Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #230 on: June 03, 2015, 10:42:49 AM »
Examples?

Maxine Crowther   
The McCanns can't keep the truth suppressed forever. There is a battle going on in social media land to force this through to the mainstream media who for some reason only publish the McScam's version of events.
£5
kathleen hammett
Mr Amaral has scarified so much to find justice for Madeleine , the persecution from her 'parents' he has had to endure is a disgrace they are a disgrace vile excuses for human beings. At least Madeleine has Mr Amaral and the least we can do is help him for all he has done.
£5
Mike McGee
Good luck in your battle against them!
£10
Stephen Farrant
Your day will come Mr Amaral and the McCanns will one day be brought to justice because of you Sir.
MagPie TRYtheMcCanns   
PJ should re-question the McCanns since they can't hide behind the arguido status. They'd have to answer about their claim of "smashed window" and "damaged shutter" which was a lie. Interesting comment by Gerry "it's not about the money" -- turns out to be all about it.
£5
Ceri TruthOrKarma   
Here we are, donating to a former police inspector being sued by funds from a misleading "search" fund masquerading as a charity. Let's have the couple of con artists arrested and be done with this nonsense! Good luck Goncalo
£5
Lilo Lil   
Money the McCann's should have spent on the search for their daughter, received through public donation has been spent on pursuing the detective formerly in charge of the investigation into what happened to her, through the Portuguese courts. He has the right to defend himself against the force of the McCann fund. He legitimately wrote a book and gave interviews based on the facts of the case, like many police officers and Criminologists have before him about their own respective cases too numerous to name. I cannot and will not support parents who neglected their children and strongly object to the way they are portrayed in the UK media. Forca Goncalo!
£20
Brigette Barnes   
2nd of monthly donations I will make to this cause, for however long it takes. As someone who personally was "stitched-up" by MSM & Govt concerning this case, I hope Dr Amaral draws on the strength and support the majority of UK gives him, and will fight & fight again to bring this vile, greedy couple to justice. And to MSM..grow a pair, report the truth, UK public have had enough of you being up the McCann's asses. Shame on you all.
£10
Monika S   
McCanns - why did you lie about the shutters, why did Kate not answer 48questions to help find her daughter, why did you flee Portugal as soon as you were made suspects. I am a mother - I would never leave the country , I would turn every stone on the Portuguese soil and then turn it again until I die or find her.
£5
Rosalind S   
My uncle died at Passchendaele aged seventeen. He did not die for the likes of the McCanns to come along a hundred years later and threaten our freedom of speech from within. I will not tolerate it on his behalf. I will not stand by silently and witness obscene injustice. And injustice has been grievously inflicted on Dr Amaral. That gutter rag The Sun is a disgrace to the nation and I hope Dr Amaral sues Lazzeri and all who have defamed him in such a cowardly fashion, all hiding behind each other and behaving like the worst of the British Colonial mindset
£5



Not a cherry picked 'selection' of the worst ... merely the first that came to hand ... and I am sure you are already well aware of the shared sentiments being expressed, (G-force ... I think that may be a kitchen cleaning product, sorry, but it does have a ring) G-Unit.

However you did ask for examples.

Sentiments such as "The dogs don't lie, only humans who refuse to answer 48 questions do..... GO GET 'EM AMARAL!!" julia barton and "the mccanns hiding in plain sight" tend to add a little colour to the piece but a part of the resentment is made clear in what S Brown has to say, just another who believed the hype and was devastated when the preferred verdict was not delivered.



Steven Brown   
McCANN STATEMENT: "We want to emphasise that the action was never about money. It has always been focused on the effects of the libels on our other children and the damage that was done to the search for Madeleine" >>>>>> COURT VERDICT: Book factual. NO Libel. NO lies. NO harm to search. NO harm to twins >>>>>> RESULT: £500k awarded for damage to image >>>>>> EFFECT: Image trounces the truth... every time.
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« Last Edit: June 03, 2015, 10:47:42 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #231 on: June 03, 2015, 11:41:17 AM »
Maxine Crowther   
The McCanns can't keep the truth suppressed forever. There is a battle going on in social media land to force this through to the mainstream media who for some reason only publish the McScam's version of events.
£5
kathleen hammett
Mr Amaral has scarified so much to find justice for Madeleine , the persecution from her 'parents' he has had to endure is a disgrace they are a disgrace vile excuses for human beings. At least Madeleine has Mr Amaral and the least we can do is help him for all he has done.
£5
Mike McGee
Good luck in your battle against them!
£10
Stephen Farrant
Your day will come Mr Amaral and the McCanns will one day be brought to justice because of you Sir.
MagPie TRYtheMcCanns   
PJ should re-question the McCanns since they can't hide behind the arguido status. They'd have to answer about their claim of "smashed window" and "damaged shutter" which was a lie. Interesting comment by Gerry "it's not about the money" -- turns out to be all about it.
£5
Ceri TruthOrKarma   
Here we are, donating to a former police inspector being sued by funds from a misleading "search" fund masquerading as a charity. Let's have the couple of con artists arrested and be done with this nonsense! Good luck Goncalo
£5
Lilo Lil   
Money the McCann's should have spent on the search for their daughter, received through public donation has been spent on pursuing the detective formerly in charge of the investigation into what happened to her, through the Portuguese courts. He has the right to defend himself against the force of the McCann fund. He legitimately wrote a book and gave interviews based on the facts of the case, like many police officers and Criminologists have before him about their own respective cases too numerous to name. I cannot and will not support parents who neglected their children and strongly object to the way they are portrayed in the UK media. Forca Goncalo!
£20
Brigette Barnes   
2nd of monthly donations I will make to this cause, for however long it takes. As someone who personally was "stitched-up" by MSM & Govt concerning this case, I hope Dr Amaral draws on the strength and support the majority of UK gives him, and will fight & fight again to bring this vile, greedy couple to justice. And to MSM..grow a pair, report the truth, UK public have had enough of you being up the McCann's asses. Shame on you all.
£10
Monika S   
McCanns - why did you lie about the shutters, why did Kate not answer 48questions to help find her daughter, why did you flee Portugal as soon as you were made suspects. I am a mother - I would never leave the country , I would turn every stone on the Portuguese soil and then turn it again until I die or find her.
£5
Rosalind S   
My uncle died at Passchendaele aged seventeen. He did not die for the likes of the McCanns to come along a hundred years later and threaten our freedom of speech from within. I will not tolerate it on his behalf. I will not stand by silently and witness obscene injustice. And injustice has been grievously inflicted on Dr Amaral. That gutter rag The Sun is a disgrace to the nation and I hope Dr Amaral sues Lazzeri and all who have defamed him in such a cowardly fashion, all hiding behind each other and behaving like the worst of the British Colonial mindset
£5



Not a cherry picked 'selection' of the worst ... merely the first that came to hand ... and I am sure you are already well aware of the shared sentiments being expressed, (G-force ... I think that may be a kitchen cleaning product, sorry, but it does have a ring) G-Unit.

However you did ask for examples.

Sentiments such as "The dogs don't lie, only humans who refuse to answer 48 questions do..... GO GET 'EM AMARAL!!" julia barton and "the mccanns hiding in plain sight" tend to add a little colour to the piece but a part of the resentment is made clear in what S Brown has to say, just another who believed the hype and was devastated when the preferred verdict was not delivered.



Steven Brown   
McCANN STATEMENT: "We want to emphasise that the action was never about money. It has always been focused on the effects of the libels on our other children and the damage that was done to the search for Madeleine" >>>>>> COURT VERDICT: Book factual. NO Libel. NO lies. NO harm to search. NO harm to twins >>>>>> RESULT: £500k awarded for damage to image >>>>>> EFFECT: Image trounces the truth... every time.
£5

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If that's the impact of his "expert" opinion on an anglophone audience, is it any wonder what impact he may have had on the Portuguese one?

Offline G-Unit

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #232 on: June 03, 2015, 12:17:51 PM »
Maxine Crowther   
The McCanns can't keep the truth suppressed forever. There is a battle going on in social media land to force this through to the mainstream media who for some reason only publish the McScam's version of events.
£5
kathleen hammett
Mr Amaral has scarified so much to find justice for Madeleine , the persecution from her 'parents' he has had to endure is a disgrace they are a disgrace vile excuses for human beings. At least Madeleine has Mr Amaral and the least we can do is help him for all he has done.
£5
Mike McGee
Good luck in your battle against them!
£10
Stephen Farrant
Your day will come Mr Amaral and the McCanns will one day be brought to justice because of you Sir.
MagPie TRYtheMcCanns   
PJ should re-question the McCanns since they can't hide behind the arguido status. They'd have to answer about their claim of "smashed window" and "damaged shutter" which was a lie. Interesting comment by Gerry "it's not about the money" -- turns out to be all about it.
£5
Ceri TruthOrKarma   
Here we are, donating to a former police inspector being sued by funds from a misleading "search" fund masquerading as a charity. Let's have the couple of con artists arrested and be done with this nonsense! Good luck Goncalo
£5
Lilo Lil   
Money the McCann's should have spent on the search for their daughter, received through public donation has been spent on pursuing the detective formerly in charge of the investigation into what happened to her, through the Portuguese courts. He has the right to defend himself against the force of the McCann fund. He legitimately wrote a book and gave interviews based on the facts of the case, like many police officers and Criminologists have before him about their own respective cases too numerous to name. I cannot and will not support parents who neglected their children and strongly object to the way they are portrayed in the UK media. Forca Goncalo!
£20
Brigette Barnes   
2nd of monthly donations I will make to this cause, for however long it takes. As someone who personally was "stitched-up" by MSM & Govt concerning this case, I hope Dr Amaral draws on the strength and support the majority of UK gives him, and will fight & fight again to bring this vile, greedy couple to justice. And to MSM..grow a pair, report the truth, UK public have had enough of you being up the McCann's asses. Shame on you all.
£10
Monika S   
McCanns - why did you lie about the shutters, why did Kate not answer 48questions to help find her daughter, why did you flee Portugal as soon as you were made suspects. I am a mother - I would never leave the country , I would turn every stone on the Portuguese soil and then turn it again until I die or find her.
£5
Rosalind S   
My uncle died at Passchendaele aged seventeen. He did not die for the likes of the McCanns to come along a hundred years later and threaten our freedom of speech from within. I will not tolerate it on his behalf. I will not stand by silently and witness obscene injustice. And injustice has been grievously inflicted on Dr Amaral. That gutter rag The Sun is a disgrace to the nation and I hope Dr Amaral sues Lazzeri and all who have defamed him in such a cowardly fashion, all hiding behind each other and behaving like the worst of the British Colonial mindset
£5



Not a cherry picked 'selection' of the worst ... merely the first that came to hand ... and I am sure you are already well aware of the shared sentiments being expressed, (G-force ... I think that may be a kitchen cleaning product, sorry, but it does have a ring) G-Unit.

However you did ask for examples.

Sentiments such as "The dogs don't lie, only humans who refuse to answer 48 questions do..... GO GET 'EM AMARAL!!" julia barton and "the mccanns hiding in plain sight" tend to add a little colour to the piece but a part of the resentment is made clear in what S Brown has to say, just another who believed the hype and was devastated when the preferred verdict was not delivered.



Steven Brown   
McCANN STATEMENT: "We want to emphasise that the action was never about money. It has always been focused on the effects of the libels on our other children and the damage that was done to the search for Madeleine" >>>>>> COURT VERDICT: Book factual. NO Libel. NO lies. NO harm to search. NO harm to twins >>>>>> RESULT: £500k awarded for damage to image >>>>>> EFFECT: Image trounces the truth... every time.
£5

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Well, we'll have to differ once again. I see things I wouldn't say, but mostly I see anger at the sycophantic attitude of the UK Media, disbelief of the McCann's version of events, but no 'pathological malice'. I assume you are accusing people of being mentally rather than physically ill?

If something is caused by a physical or mental disease
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pathological&rlz=1C1DSGL_enGB457GB457&oq=pathological&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3828j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #233 on: June 03, 2015, 12:36:00 PM »
Well, we'll have to differ once again. I see things I wouldn't say, but mostly I see anger at the sycophantic attitude of the UK Media, disbelief of the McCann's version of events, but no 'pathological malice'. I assume you are accusing people of being mentally rather than physically ill?

If something is caused by a physical or mental disease
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pathological&rlz=1C1DSGL_enGB457GB457&oq=pathological&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3828j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
Read the comments again but this time from the perspective of an innocent person who has been awarded damages against a man who claimed in a best-selling book that you overdosed your kid and hid her body on the beach.  How do you feel about them then?

Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #234 on: June 03, 2015, 12:40:14 PM »
Well, we'll have to differ once again. I see things I wouldn't say, but mostly I see anger at the sycophantic attitude of the UK Media, disbelief of the McCann's version of events, but no 'pathological malice'. I assume you are accusing people of being mentally rather than physically ill?

If something is caused by a physical or mental disease
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pathological&rlz=1C1DSGL_enGB457GB457&oq=pathological&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3828j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8


1   pathological behaviour or feelings happen regularly, and are strong, unreasonable, and impossible to control:

pathological hatred of women
pathological liar

http://www.ldoceonline.com/Psychology,+Psychiatry-topic/pathological

There you go then ... just an everyday phrase ... how could one imagine it is a definition of a real  medical condition such as cancer ... or as you have said ... mental illness.

Substitute 'McCann' for 'women' in the above definition and I think you may have actually summed up the situation very succinctly indeed.
The malice and the apparent obsessiveness of it directed at the parents of a missing child are more understandable when considered in context. Although  nonetheless abhorrent despite recognition of what may be the 'reasoning' behind it all.


"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #235 on: June 03, 2015, 01:01:02 PM »
Oh please.  It's only the usual 1000 "sceptics" who have supported Amaral, even with publicity from the MSM - what percentage of the population is that?  Using Kate's cycle ride as a measure of their support is absurd.  If the boot was on the other foot and the McCanns were facing financial ruin because of the malevolent agenda of a corrupt ex-cop from Portugal I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that if there was a fund to help them it would raise many more thousands than Amaral's.  And no before you ask I don't have a cite, it's my opinion innit.

Ah Alfie but opinions are like noses ain't they.

Further if the McCanns were so sure that the public would financially support litigation why oh why have they never made it clear that that was what their donations were funding ? Why the subtefuge ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #236 on: June 03, 2015, 01:03:21 PM »
Examples?

Since you insist ... and when reading it I would bear in mind your definition of 'pathological'.

I can appreciate people making a donation to a good cause ... but I wonder at those who use their charity as a platform to abuse the parents of a missing child with just a touch of sectarianism thrown into the mix.



Mark and Sheila Hale   
One day I hope the McCanns will discover belonging to the RC Church and confessing to a RC Priest will not save them only confession of their sin to Jesus is the answer.

My hope for the McCanns is that they are saved by believing in the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven (1Corinthians 15:1-4) see - maureen-ray.com/therebelliousson.

The RC Church is an apostate organisation which preaches salvation by works not through God's grace and by faith in that Gospel.

God hates liars and the destiny of those who deliberately lie is eternal death.

Only belonging in the Body of the One true Church (the Body of Christ) can save them.

He sees right into their hearts and knows the truth about this heinous crime and He alone knows the truth about the way they have made plenty of money out of this terrible tragedy then to claim that money is not the reason for pursuing Goncalo Amaral deserves only a snort of disbelief from me.

Freedom of speech and writing his opinion should not ruffle their feathers if they were innocent and neither should he have to pay one cent for writing his opinion. I sincerely hope that the Daily Express Newspaper, and so many others the McCanns have pursued for monetary gain will be vindicated. Our thoughts cannot be excised from any one of us by any legal process.

Goncalo Amaral is a very brave man.
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Just realised some of these comments are more interesting and informative than I first gave them credit for.

The next round of contributions will no doubt bear that in mind.    8**8:/:
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #237 on: June 03, 2015, 01:06:28 PM »
Ah Alfie but opinions are like noses ain't they.

Further if the McCanns were so sure that the public would financially support litigation why oh why have they never made it clear that that was what their donations were funding ? Why the subtefuge ?
There you go accusing the McCanns of deceit again - you just can't help yourself can you??

Offline G-Unit

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #238 on: June 03, 2015, 01:31:50 PM »
Read the comments again but this time from the perspective of an innocent person who has been awarded damages against a man who claimed in a best-selling book that you overdosed your kid and hid her body on the beach.  How do you feel about them then?

It is unfortunate if innocent people are being doubted, but there is no causal connection between Amaral's book and the doubts. People doubted the McCanns before the release of the PJ Files and before the publication of Amaral's book.
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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #239 on: June 03, 2015, 01:43:44 PM »

1   pathological behaviour or feelings happen regularly, and are strong, unreasonable, and impossible to control:

pathological hatred of women
pathological liar

http://www.ldoceonline.com/Psychology,+Psychiatry-topic/pathological

There you go then ... just an everyday phrase ... how could one imagine it is a definition of a real  medical condition such as cancer ... or as you have said ... mental illness.

Substitute 'McCann' for 'women' in the above definition and I think you may have actually summed up the situation very succinctly indeed.
The malice and the apparent obsessiveness of it directed at the parents of a missing child are more understandable when considered in context. Although  nonetheless abhorrent despite recognition of what may be the 'reasoning' behind it all.


and what of the pathological hatred shown by the mccanns and some of their supporters towards Amaral, and the supporters of course have nt even met him ? &%+((£