The parents of a missing child don't matter.

[G-Unit]

1   pathological behaviour or feelings happen regularly, and are strong, unreasonable, and impossible to control:

pathological hatred of women
pathological liar

http://www.ldoceonline.com/Psychology,+Psychiatry-topic/pathological

There you go then ... just an everyday phrase ... how could one imagine it is a definition of a real  medical condition such as cancer ... or as you have said ... mental illness.

Substitute 'McCann' for 'women' in the above definition and I think you may have actually summed up the situation very succinctly indeed.
The malice and the apparent obsessiveness of it directed at the parents of a missing child are more understandable when considered in context. Although  nonetheless abhorrent despite recognition of what may be the 'reasoning' behind it all.

As you are quoting from a psychiatric definition mental disturbance seems to be involved. I see no signs of pathological traits in most posts.

[Alfred R Jones]

It is unfortunate if innocent people are being doubted, but there is no causal connection between Amaral's book and the doubts. People doubted the McCanns before the release of the PJ Files and before the publication of Amaral's book.

you've shifted the focus of the discussion, my point was in reply to this, re: your perception of the nature of the comments being left on the fund page:


Well, we'll have to differ once again. I see things I wouldn't say, but mostly I see anger at the sycophantic attitude of the UK Media, disbelief of the McCann's version of events, but no 'pathological malice'. I assume you are accusing people of being mentally rather than physically ill?

[G-Unit]

you've shifted the focus of the discussion, my point was in reply to this, re: your perception of the nature of the comments being left on the fund page:


Well, we'll have to differ once again. I see things I wouldn't say, but mostly I see anger at the sycophantic attitude of the UK Media, disbelief of the McCann's version of events, but no 'pathological malice'. I assume you are accusing people of being mentally rather than physically ill?

I answered your point which asked me to read the posts again from the point of view of innocent people. I said that it was unfortunate if innocent people were being doubted. You then went on a rant about Amaral's book, and I replied that there was no causal connection between the book and the doubts. The post above was in reply to Brietta, not you.

[Alfred R Jones]

I answered your point which asked me to read the posts again from the point of view of innocent people. I said that it was unfortunate if innocent people were being doubted. You then went on a rant about Amaral's book, and I replied that there was no causal connection between the book and the doubts. The post above was in reply to Brietta, not you.

You've deliberately avoided or misunderstood the point, never mind.  I didn't "rant" about Amaral's book either.

[Alfred R Jones]

It is unfortunate if innocent people are being doubted, but there is no causal connection between Amaral's book and the doubts. People doubted the McCanns before the release of the PJ Files and before the publication of Amaral's book.

Furthermore, there IS a connection between those people leaving the comments and Amaral's book.  Those people  are leaving the comments BECAUSE Amaral wrote the book in the first place, if he hadn't, there would be no fund, and no comments.  If you were reading those comments from the point of view of someone who had experienced hurt and damage because of Amaral's book you would clearly view many of them as unjust, hurtful, cruel and vindictive.  In fact, if you were able to empathise with someone who had been damaged by his book you would clearly be able to see that too, but then you don't so you can't! 

[Alice Purjorick]

and what of the pathological hatred shown by the mccanns and some of their supporters towards Amaral, and the supporters of course have nt even met him ? &%+((£

It doesn't count for Sr Amaral is Beelzebub incarnate, allegedly.

[jassi]

It doesn't count for Sr Amaral is Beelzebub incarnate, allegedly.

There is nothing alleged about it - he is EVIL, EVIL, EVIL. There is no other word for it.   

[Eleanor]

There is nothing alleged about it - he is EVIL, EVIL, EVIL. There is no other word for it.   

No, he's not evil.  Just a very stupid man.

[Alfred R Jones]

It doesn't count for Sr Amaral is Beelzebub incarnate, allegedly.

I agree that Amaral is probably pathologically hated by some people (I'm not very keen on him for a start), however that hatred doesn't extend to anything like the level of trolling,abuse and vindictiveness that we see directed McCann-ward.  Hashtag Amaral anyone?

[carlymichelle]

I agree that Amaral is probably pathologically hated by some people (I'm not very keen on him for a start), however that hatred doesn't extend to anything like the level of trolling,abuse and vindictiveness that we see directed McCann-ward.  Hashtag Amaral anyone?

if  you  dont like what we  say why read it??   you  mcann supporters     are nasty to GA  and yet   you  think we are nasty to the mcanns?/  GA  was at work doing his job the mcanns should have been with their kids and were not huge diffrence

[Eleanor]

if  you  dont like what we  say why read it??   you  mcann supporters     are nasty to GA  and yet   you  think we are nasty to the mcanns?/  GA  was at work doing his job the mcanns should have been with their kids and were not huge diffrence

Amaral was driving around drunk with his daughter in the car.  But I suppose that's okay, eh?

[Alfred R Jones]

if  you  dont like what we  say why read it??   you  mcann supporters     are nasty to GA  and yet   you  think we are nasty to the mcanns?/  GA  was at work doing his job the mcanns should have been with their kids and were not huge diffrence

If you don't like what I say why read it?  Ignore it.  Byeeeeeee... &8#£%

[G-Unit]

Furthermore, there IS a connection between those people leaving the comments and Amaral's book.  Those people  are leaving the comments BECAUSE Amaral wrote the book in the first place, if he hadn't, there would be no fund, and no comments.  If you were reading those comments from the point of view of someone who had experienced hurt and damage because of Amaral's book you would clearly view many of them as unjust, hurtful, cruel and vindictive.  In fact, if you were able to empathise with someone who had been damaged by his book you would clearly be able to see that too, but then you don't so you can't!

There would have been comments elsewhere instead Alfred. The book may have affected some people's views, but by no means everyone who doubts the McCann's story does so because of Amaral's book.

If I was innocent and I'd just been awarded a large sum of money because someone hurt me why would I care what people said? If the people who matter (Operation Grange, the reopened PJ investigation, David Cameron, Theresa May and Hugh Grant) believe me I wouldn't bother about a small number of internet trolls would I?.....although I might wonder about a large number of British Police Officers............

[jassi]

Amaral was driving around drunk with his daughter in the car.  But I suppose that's okay, eh?

Is that not a little off topic?

[Alfred R Jones]

There would have been comments elsewhere instead Alfred. The book may have affected some people's views, but by no means everyone who doubts the McCann's story does so because of Amaral's book.

If I was innocent and I'd just been awarded a large sum of money because someone hurt me why would I care what people said? If the people who matter (Operation Grange, the reopened PJ investigation, David Cameron, Theresa May and Hugh Grant) believe me I wouldn't bother about a small number of internet trolls would I?.....although I might wonder about a large number of British Police Officers............

Again I feel you are missing the point.  It was you who asked for evidence of pathological hatred of the McCanns on the Funding Page.  When these were pointed out to you, you seemed to think these were all very reasonable and moderate points of view being expressed and not remotely trollish,  which is why I asked you to imagine how you would view those comments if they were directed at you, knowing that you were innocent yourself.  Maybe you genuinely wouldn't be bothered by them, though I find that extremely hard to believe.  Nobody likes to be falsely accused and abused, even if it is "only" by 1000 people on the internet!