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stephen25000

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2015, 06:09:25 PM »
Bit strange though how 5 forces are apparently  simultaneously carrying out  investigations in Heath.

He's an easier target, but his name has been 'around' for years.

There are 'several' other well know names which could well come to the surface.

stephen25000

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2015, 06:10:49 PM »

I prefer not to.

I can understand why.

She had many things to answer for.

Offline jassi

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2015, 06:11:47 PM »
Yes, I know, but suddenly he's 'outed' by 5 forces apparently working independently.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2015, 06:12:10 PM »
Indeed.

If the allegations are true, members of the 'establishment' have been covering up certain 'activities' for decades.

Think about Thatcher.
She wasn't Heath's biggest fan was she?

stephen25000

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2015, 06:25:28 PM »
She wasn't Heath's biggest fan was she?

Hardly, but a very close friend of Savile.

stephen25000

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2015, 06:26:28 PM »
Yes, I know, but suddenly he's 'outed' by 5 forces apparently working independently.

Is he merely being used as a diversion from other people ? &%+((£

Offline jassi

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2015, 06:35:02 PM »
Is he merely being used as a diversion from other people ? &%+((£

Could be. Better to implicate a  dead person  rather than have a live 'brother' prosecuted for the same thing.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Angelo222

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2015, 06:44:41 PM »
Could be. Better to implicate a  dead person  rather than have a live 'brother' prosecuted for the same thing.

Oh for God's sake don't mention paedophile gangs and masons if Sadie's about.   @)(++(*
« Last Edit: August 05, 2015, 06:47:01 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline jassi

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2015, 06:45:32 PM »
Oh for God's sake don't mention paedophile gangs if Sadie's about.   @)(++(*


Sorry   8()-000(
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline mercury

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2015, 07:15:00 PM »
Historic cases need to be investigated just as much as current ones, as both have victims that need justice.

Investigating old cases, where the police and/or other authorities have failed the victims or, worse, been complicit, also needs to be brought to light.

IMHO.

PS, on the off topic issue of the Iraq war, Jeremy Corbyn has called for Tony Blair to be tried for war crimes if the Chilcot Report (which incidentally Cameron has now demanded a date for) shows he broke international law (as the UN has already stated he has). So, it may not be 50 years after all!

Taking a country to war on false pretences is a huge crime, and that is not counting the fallout whch carries on to this day.


Offline Brietta

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2015, 07:34:37 PM »
Historic cases need to be investigated just as much as current ones, as both have victims that need justice.

Investigating old cases, where the police and/or other authorities have failed the victims or, worse, been complicit, also needs to be brought to light.

IMHO.

PS, on the off topic issue of the Iraq war, Jeremy Corbyn has called for Tony Blair to be tried for war crimes if the Chilcot Report (which incidentally Cameron has now demanded a date for) shows he broke international law (as the UN has already stated he has). So, it may not be 50 years after all!

Taking a country to war on false pretences is a huge crime, and that is not counting the fallout whch carries on to this day.

There is no argument from me regarding the first part of your post: particularly when victims of crime have reported offences and been ignored without adequate investigation being carried out.

There is a very fine line indeed between justice being served and justice being abused.  You can say what you like about a dead person with impunity ... for the simple reason s\he isn't around to argue the point.

Edward Heath's diary secretary has spoken in his defence; it will be interesting if his diaries match up with times and dates remembered by his accuser.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2015, 07:38:31 PM »
There is no argument from me regarding the first part of your post: particularly when victims of crime have reported offences and been ignored without adequate investigation being carried out.

There is a very fine line indeed between justice being served and justice being abused.  You can say what you like about a dead person with impunity ... for the simple reason s\he isn't around to argue the point.

Edward Heath's diary secretary has spoken in his defence; it will be interesting if his diaries match up with times and dates remembered by his accuser.

Won't really matter. You know how bad people's memory can be when it comes down to details during traumatic events
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline sadie

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2015, 07:52:18 PM »
Not entirely true.
Nobody ( IE the public) knew  about Heath before this week. Its only when investigations are taken seriously that the information becomes public.

While this is important and may tie in with more current investigations, the police should be pursuing live criminals, particularly those who are still committing their crimes.
You have to be joking jassi.

Heaths interest in boys has been on the internet for years.


And there is something else about him and what happened when he was sailing that I am not going to mention, but if true it is diabolical.

Offline sadie

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2015, 07:55:50 PM »
Maybe in another 50 years society will be looking to prosecute the guy who took the country into the Iraq war on a false pretext.

I would go along with that, but sooner rather than later.

Was he the guy who introduced the one hundred year secrecy Law?

Offline sadie

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2015, 08:02:08 PM »
He's an easier target, but his name has been 'around' for years.

There are 'several' other well know names which could well come to the surface.

Exactly

Even if it is rather late, let's sort them out,