Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann

[Anna]

What's that, in a rowing boat ?

I am thinking elites, with a fully crewed motor yacht of some size, easily able to cruise at 25 knots.

1 knot = 1 nautical mile / hour
1 nautical mile = I.16 mile

Lawful maximum speed after dark = 10 knots



Therefore with the boat crewed day and night, in 24 hours it would achieve

25 knots for day light hours, say 14 hours =                          406 miles
10 knots for hours after dark, say 10 hours =                         116 miles

Total cruised in 24 hours = 516 miles


Taking Annas figure of 1,400 miles that would take less than 3 days



Can someone please check my figures.  My maths isn't so hot these days.

That is as the crow flies, Sadie. I think they would have to sail up past Gibraltar, before there was a straighter line into Malta.
I don't have to check your calculations, as they are normally, spot on.

[mercury]

Fact based forum apparently, no room for wild speculation....whatever the knots??

The thread is about sightings of Madeleine....and none that I can see have ever placed her in a boat, if they have, please link

[Alice Purjorick]

Are you descended from Rollo?

I don't know.
I am of Scandawegian descent that's for sure.
Do you speak hurdygurdy?

[sadie]

quickie from Shining's forum, with thanks.

I will look for the file shortly.

https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2014/12/15/madeleine-mccann-snatched-by-brazilians/

Lagos Marina

With an entrance via a kind of canal well over a kilometer long x 65 meters wide the marina was well protected from sea storms.

There was a barrier that was lowered [or closed] every evening, which was kept closed all night.  This barrier was at the Marina end of the "canal".   IIRC it was closed at 8 pm, so any boats wanting to make an early start had to get out of the Marina and moor on pontoon like berths near the side of this canal


One boat did this on the evening of May 3rd.   I cant remember its name, but it moored on the pontoon.  I probably named this boat in an earlier post.     So unless that boat belonged to the couple in the Express report, they certainly did not hot foot it from the Marina that night.


I should add that there is a Lagos Commercial Port as well as the Marina.  As far as I am aware private boat owners do not moor there cos it is more for fishermen and big commercial boats.... and would not be so pleasant for living, I would think.

[mercury]

But no sighting of Madeleine....so worthless

[sadie]

I don't know.
I am of Scandawegian descent that's for sure.
Do you speak hurdygurdy?

Me too, my family blood threads are very diverse, but one main thread, at least, goes back to Norway.

[Anna]

OK Guys.... back on topic, please.

[sadie]

That is as the crow flies, Sadie. I think they would have to sail up past Gibraltar, before there was a straighter line into Malta.
I don't have to check your calculations, as they are normally, spot on.

Yep the boat had to pass Gibraltar but that only adds about 100 miles


For this exercise, which cant be exact cos we dont know the actual boat, 1400 miles is fine.

Thanks Anna

[faithlilly]

I could possibly just be remembering a press article, Faith.
Such as this...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/546818/Brazilian-couple-who-wanted-a-child-re-examined-in-Madeleine-hunt

 I will have another look later.

Thanks Anna.

[pathfinder73]

That Brazilian girl is known Sarah Silva seen by Simon Russell. Dear oh dear.

[Lace]

Processos Volume IV

Pages 854-855


External Inquiry Report

Date: 2007/05/09
Place: Praia da Luz - Lagos
Responsible Officers: Raquel Neves and Tony Almeida, Inspectors
Description and result of the inquiry:

In the sequence of information received by this Policia Judiciaria on this date, at around 11H40, we went to the Video Club “Eureka Services", located in Praia da Luz - Lagos, in order to contact Mr. S**** R******, the owner of the establishment.
…
Following an informal conversation, we were informed by that individual that he had remembered that on the previous Thursday, 3rd May, 2007, at the time he was closing up his shop, around 22h45, a small vehicle, whose make, model and number plate he does not remember, the only identifying element he captured was the colour of the vehicle—a dull red, almost as if the colour has been burnt off, sic, due to prolonged exposure to sunlight. Inside the vehicle, he could only make out the presence of one person, as well as a dog in the front passenger's seat.
…
At the moment that said vehicle passed him, he observed that the driver was looking towards the back seat . Mr R***** affirms that he did not have, at that time, the opportunity to determine what was in the back of the car.
…
When questioned, he further noted that he recognised the identity of the driver, indicating that it was a female, of Brazilian nationality, 1,70 cm in height, 25/26 years of age, slim with lightly coloured skin. He even added her name, S*** S***** because she and her partner had previously worked at his parents’ farm. …
Due to minor arguments caused by the misuse of tools, involving mainly the woman’s companion identified as E***** S*****, the latter, also of Brazilian nationality, and Mr. R*****, effectively came to blows, and the services of the couple were concluded.
…
He adds that some of the physical aggressions he suffered in Marina de Lagos, had required help from the local police;
…
After the couple were fired, he found out that they went to work in the Marina de Lagos, in the area of repairs/maintenance of boats, and more concretely, for a boat which was moored there and that they it as their residence. He furthers that it was a catamaran of high dimensions with the name "TROPICS";
…
Another individual called R***** also worked in that place with the couple. R*****’s telephone number is xxxxxxxxx, and he may help in determining other elements;
…
He only remembered the episode at this point, because in making some associations, given the disappearance of the child, it reminded of him of this couple who mentioned that they had an exceptional desire to have a child of their own;
…
After the facts occurred, he also stated that they had left Marina de Lagos, as the vessel was no longer found in that place.


When questioned about the physical characteristics of E**** S*****, he identified him as being bald, with a strong build, around 1,70 m in height, dark skin tone and around 42 years of age.

Signed.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic116-10.html

Thanks Anna.

Is this the couple who said they would kidnap a child they were that desperate.   The brother of the man mentioned this.

They came into a lot of money?

Or am I mixing them up?

[Eleanor]

Thanks Anna.

Is this the couple who said they would kidnap a child they were that desperate.   The brother of the man mentioned this.

They came into a lot of money?

Or am I mixing them up?

It is my understanding that these were them.  Hence my increased interest.

[Lace]

It is my understanding that these were them.  Hence my increased interest.

re
A person saying he knew where Madeleine was,   came which disrupted the McCann's tour to spread the name of Madeleine and that she was missing.

This call was taken extremely seriously,  unfortunately the caller did not ring back.

The call was traced to Argentina,  not a million miles away from Brazil.

[Eleanor]

re
A person saying he knew where Madeleine was,   came which disrupted the McCann's tour to spread the name of Madeleine and that she was missing.

This call was taken extremely seriously,  unfortunately the caller did not ring back.

The call was traced to Argentina,  not a million miles away from Brazil.

Well, if Madeleine is somewhere in South America they are going to have hell's own job getting her back.  This could account for the delays in The Investigation.

[jassi]

re
A person saying he knew where Madeleine was,   came which disrupted the McCann's tour to spread the name of Madeleine and that she was missing.

This call was taken extremely seriously,  unfortunately the caller did not ring back.

The call was traced to Argentina,  not a million miles away from Brazil.

On planet Earth, nowhere is a million miles from anywhere else.