Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann

[Lace]

On planet Earth, nowhere is a million miles from anywhere else.

True,   but it's just a saying,  meaning not far from jassi.

[faithlilly]

Well, if Madeleine is somewhere in South America they are going to have hell's own job getting her back.  This could account for the delays in The Investigation.

Oh and Marcos Correia allegedly now lives in Brazil. Do you think OG has sent him there to infiltrate the child trafficking gang/desperate childless couple and smuggle Madeleine home ?

[Mr Gray]

Oh and Marcos Correia allegedly now lives in Brazil. Do you think OG has sent him there to infiltrate the child trafficking gang/desperate childless couple and smuggle Madeleine home ?

has far more chance of being true than your other theories

[Eleanor]

Oh and Marcos Correia allegedly now lives in Brazil. Do you think OG has sent him there to infiltrate the child trafficking gang/desperate childless couple and smuggle Madeleine home ?

Such a silly comment, which adds nothing to the debate.

[faithlilly]

Such a silly comment, which adds nothing to the debate.

Is it really any sillier than the Brazillian couple kidnapping Madeleine ( not a baby which they might get away with integrating into their family unit without too many questions but a fully formed four year old and not a child who looks Brazillian but a porcelain white, fair haired English speaking child) ?

Really ?

[Mr Gray]

Is it really any sillier than the Brazillian couple kidnapping Madeleine ( not a baby which they might get away with integrating into their family unit without too many questions but a fully formed four year old and not a child who looks Brazillian but a porcelain white, fair haired English speaking child) ?

Really ?

not as silly as the parents being involved

[Lace]

Is it really any sillier than the Brazillian couple kidnapping Madeleine ( not a baby which they might get away with integrating into their family unit without too many questions but a fully formed four year old and not a child who looks Brazillian but a porcelain white, fair haired English speaking child) ?

Really ?

Have you looked at the children in Argentina schools?    There are a lot of blonde haired children.   Children don't go to school until they are six in Argentina,   long enough for Madeleine to have learnt the language.

Remember the couple in Morocco they had a fair haired child didn't they?

[Alice Purjorick]

Have you looked at the children in Argentina schools?    There are a lot of blonde haired children.   Children don't go to school until they are six in Argentina,   long enough for Madeleine to have learnt the language.

Remember the couple in Morocco they had a fair haired child didn't they?

Argentina is not Brazil. Argentina has a history of immigrant population from Germany and other northern European countries so fair haired blue eyed Latinas are not uncommon there. See Silvia Bertolaccini for one.
Are you saying MM is in Argentina? She might be in the Basque Country or Asturias region of Spain; plenty of fair haired blue and green eyed people there. In fact she could be hidden anywhere where the Vikings had influence, which covers a lot of ground Morocco and Iraq included.

[Lace]

Argentina is not Brazil. Argentina has a history of immigrant population from Germany and other northern European countries so fair haired blue eyed Latinas are not uncommon there. See Silvia Bertolaccini for one.
Are you saying MM is in Argentina? She might be in the Basque Country or Asturias region of Spain; plenty of fair haired blue and green eyed people there. In fact she could be hidden anywhere where the Vikings had influence, which covers a lot of ground Morocco and Iraq included.

I was thinking of Argentina as that is where the sighting was also it isn't that far from Brazil,  could be they thought Brazil would be too obvious.

[slartibartfast]

What's that, in a rowing boat ?

I am thinking elites, with a fully crewed motor yacht of some size, easily able to cruise at 25 knots.

1 knot = 1 nautical mile / hour
1 nautical mile = I.16 mile

Lawful maximum speed after dark = 10 knots



Therefore with the boat crewed day and night, in 24 hours it would achieve

25 knots for day light hours, say 14 hours =                          406 miles
10 knots for hours after dark, say 10 hours =                         116 miles

Total cruised in 24 hours = 516 miles


Taking Annas figure of 1,400 miles that would take less than 3 days



Can someone please check my figures.  My maths isn't so hot these days.

They could have just hopped on a cruise liner.

[Brietta]

Well, if Madeleine is somewhere in South America they are going to have hell's own job getting her back.  This could account for the delays in The Investigation.

Kidnapping is not exactly unknown in South America, some of it was State sanctioned as the Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo can attest.


**Snip
In 1980, a fellow parishioner of Jorgelina’s adoptive parents recognised her from the pictures. He contacted the Grandmothers. Ana’s fight to recover her granddaughter became focused and she began to write letters to Jorgelina.

“Even though my grandmother knew where I was, my adoptive parents had legal adoption papers,” says Jorgelina. “My maternal grandmother had signed the papers and because my father’s name wasn’t on my birth certificate and DNA testing wasn’t available at that time, Ana couldn’t prove I was her granddaughter.”

Why had her maternal grandmother signed the adoption papers? “Out of fear. When somebody disappeared, to protect other members of their family people wouldn’t make a fuss. This affected thousands because it tore families apart,” she says.

**Snip
“I’ve always known I was adopted because I was almost four when my mum disappeared. But my adoptive parents told me that my parents were terrorists and had neglected me.”
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/27/child-argentinas-disappeared-new-family-identity




                                        Neymar with son and child’s mother
 
 
Some people commented on how the child didn’t take after his father too much while others stressed that Neymar’s mixed ancestry was similar to that of many Brazilians. Still others revealed their own family backgrounds as evidence that brown skinned people having lighter-skinned children is normal in Brazil.

http://blackwomenofbrazil.co/2013/02/21/neymars-blond-ambition-and-the-question-of-racism-identity-and-marketability-of-black-public-figures/

I think it is perfectly possible that a blonde haired child like Madeleine would not raise eyebrows in Brazil or any other South American country.

[sadie]

Argentina is not Brazil. Argentina has a history of immigrant population from Germany and other northern European countries so fair haired blue eyed Latinas are not uncommon there. See Silvia Bertolaccini for one.
Are you saying MM is in Argentina? She might be in the Basque Country or Asturias region of Spain; plenty of fair haired blue and green eyed people there. In fact she could be hidden anywhere where the Vikings had influence, which covers a lot of ground Morocco and Iraq included.

Bert/olaccini  sounds half German and half Italian , but together very Latino.

And the Vikings.   Judging by the ships they sailed .... the Vikings ended up in the Greek Islands where the Phoenicians mainly came from too.  I wonder if the Phoenicians are part Viking Germanic and part Greek?

The Viking and the Phoenician ships are almost identical

The names of people from Norway are also reflected in the names of places on the Greek islands.



And, of course Rollo, King of Norway raided and scavenged France so much that the King of France gave him Normandy in exchange for his stopping all the raiding and pillaging.  Tis said that William the Conqueror is descended from Rollo with Robert The Strong, timewise, somewhere between the two.

The King of France might have given him Brittany too, Elli, but I cant remember.  soz


Oh Jeez, I am off again ... but it is our History, after all.

[Eleanor]

Bert/olaccini  sounds half German and half Italian , but together very Latino.

And the Vikings.   Judging by the ships they sailed .... the Vikings ended up in the Greek Islands where the Phoenicians mainly came from too.  I wonder if the Phoenicians are part Viking Germanic and part Greek?

The Viking and the Phoenician ships are almost identical

The names of people from Norway are also reflected in the names of places on the Greek islands.



And, of course Rollo, King of Norway raided and scavenged France so much that the King of France gave him Normandy in exchange for his stopping all the raiding and pillaging.  Tis said that William the Conqueror is descended from Rollo with Robert The Strong, timewise, somewhere between the two.

The King of France might have given him Brittany too, Elli, but I cant remember.  soz


Oh Jeez, I am off again ... but it is our History, after all.

Tis possible, Sadie.  Brittany is a separate entity and doesn't consider itself French at all.

[slartibartfast]

Bert/olaccini  sounds half German and half Italian , but together very Latino.

And the Vikings.   Judging by the ships they sailed .... the Vikings ended up in the Greek Islands where the Phoenicians mainly came from too.  I wonder if the Phoenicians are part Viking Germanic and part Greek?

The Viking and the Phoenician ships are almost identical

The names of people from Norway are also reflected in the names of places on the Greek islands.



And, of course Rollo, King of Norway raided and scavenged France so much that the King of France gave him Normandy in exchange for his stopping all the raiding and pillaging.  Tis said that William the Conqueror is descended from Rollo with Robert The Strong, timewise, somewhere between the two.

The King of France might have given him Brittany too, Elli, but I cant remember.  soz


Oh Jeez, I am off again ... but it is our History, after all.

Phoenicians - 1550 BC to 300 BC
Vikings - late 8th to late 11th centuries

Sounds like you have been Icking again.

[Anna]

Kidnapping is not exactly unknown in South America, some of it was State sanctioned as the Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo can attest.


**Snip
In 1980, a fellow parishioner of Jorgelina’s adoptive parents recognised her from the pictures. He contacted the Grandmothers. Ana’s fight to recover her granddaughter became focused and she began to write letters to Jorgelina.

“Even though my grandmother knew where I was, my adoptive parents had legal adoption papers,” says Jorgelina. “My maternal grandmother had signed the papers and because my father’s name wasn’t on my birth certificate and DNA testing wasn’t available at that time, Ana couldn’t prove I was her granddaughter.”

Why had her maternal grandmother signed the adoption papers? “Out of fear. When somebody disappeared, to protect other members of their family people wouldn’t make a fuss. This affected thousands because it tore families apart,” she says.

**Snip
“I’ve always known I was adopted because I was almost four when my mum disappeared. But my adoptive parents told me that my parents were terrorists and had neglected me.”
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/27/child-argentinas-disappeared-new-family-identity




                                        Neymar with son and child’s mother
 
 
Some people commented on how the child didn’t take after his father too much while others stressed that Neymar’s mixed ancestry was similar to that of many Brazilians. Still others revealed their own family backgrounds as evidence that brown skinned people having lighter-skinned children is normal in Brazil.

http://blackwomenofbrazil.co/2013/02/21/neymars-blond-ambition-and-the-question-of-racism-identity-and-marketability-of-black-public-figures/

I think it is perfectly possible that a blonde haired child like Madeleine would not raise eyebrows in Brazil or any other South American country.

Interesting bit about Blondes in Brazil?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/4307262/Nazi-angel-of-death-Josef-Mengele-created-twin-town-in-Brazil.html