Author Topic: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?  (Read 118833 times)

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Offline mercury

Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #405 on: October 11, 2015, 12:51:24 AM »
Life's hard enough, without having to take on board the McCanns selfish stupidity.

Well said! No one should ever give them the time of day anymore
They've had years of publicity and multi millions of pounds like 15 plus million they are having a laugh now

« Last Edit: October 11, 2015, 12:56:15 AM by mercury »

Offline misty

Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #406 on: October 11, 2015, 01:07:03 AM »
Well said! No one should ever give them the time of day anymore
They've had years of publicity and multi millions of pounds like 15 plus million they are having a laugh now

You don't have to read the media articles or spend hours expressing your distaste for the McCanns, do you?
There are many who care enough or are interested enough to watch this case progress & hope for a positive outcome.
You have an "off" button. Sadly, Madeleine's parents don't at this time.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #407 on: October 11, 2015, 02:00:46 AM »
Is it within forum rules to 'talk among yourselves' about other members?  Or is it behaviour which should be reported?

Since I consider it blasphemous and therefore highly offensive to be called a 'worshipper' of any human being ... should this also be reported?

The thread is not about how sensitive I am about what other posters feel free to say about me ... unless the posters are merely illustrating by example a modicum of what the Drs McCann are treated to every day of their lives.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #408 on: October 11, 2015, 07:42:05 AM »
but as I have already explained none of that has any bearing on empathising with their feelings and behaviour in the immediate aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance and why they might have felt it necessary to "vandalise" Madeleine's activity book, the comment which prompted my "snide lack of empathy" comment in the first place.

Which was made to me and I explained that I couldn't empathise with the McCanns because I don't know what happened that night. The McCanns claim that they do know what happened; a window and shutter were opened and their child was taken. If true, that's awful and I could empathise, but what if it's not true? Then they have knowledge which I don't have, and without it how can I understand how they felt? It's possible to empathise with them only if you believe them.
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Offline Benice

Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #409 on: October 11, 2015, 08:37:41 AM »
and how do you konw this?  Because "smug, bloody awful" Kate told us, hardly the actions of a smug or deceitful person IMO.

Exactly.   The McCanns had no need to ever mention what Madeleine had said to them.   They told the PJ because they thought it may have some relevance to her disappearance and that the perpetrator might have been in their apartment the night before.      Even then - they could have come up with a story like...''Madeleine told us she had a nasty dream about a man being in her room ' ... or something similar - which would get the same message across without leaving themselves open to criticism.     That's what deceitful liars would do IMO.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #410 on: October 11, 2015, 08:43:47 AM »
Exactly.   The McCanns had no need to ever mention what Madeleine had said to them.   They told the PJ because they thought it may have some relevance to her disappearance and that the perpetrator might have been in their apartment the night before.      Even then - they could have come up with a story like...''Madeleine told us she had a nasty dream about a man being in her room ' ... or something similar - which would get the same message across without leaving themselves open to criticism.     That's what deceitful liars would do IMO.

Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Benice

Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #411 on: October 11, 2015, 08:57:17 AM »
Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.

Can I take it that you believe the McCanns were being entirely truthful when they told the PJ what Madeleine had said to them - even though they didn't have to and it would put them in a bad light if they did?   That doesn't sound like the actions of deceitful liars to me.  Quite the opposite in fact.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #412 on: October 11, 2015, 08:59:23 AM »
Can I take it that you believe the McCanns were being entirely truthful when they told the PJ what Madeleine had said to them - even though they didn't have to and it would put them in a bad light if they did?   That doesn't sound like the actions of deceitful liars to me.  Quite the opposite in fact.

I don't know.
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Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #413 on: October 11, 2015, 09:08:46 AM »
Life's hard enough, without having to take on board the McCanns selfish stupidity.
WTF?  And it's the McCanns who are supposed to be overly sensitive!!

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #414 on: October 11, 2015, 09:10:30 AM »
Well said! No one should ever give them the time of day anymore
They've had years of publicity and multi millions of pounds like 15 plus million they are having a laugh now
Then if the offend your sensibilities so very much why do you spend most evenings contemplating their actions? 

stephen25000

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Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #415 on: October 11, 2015, 09:17:07 AM »
Can I take it that you believe the McCanns were being entirely truthful when they told the PJ what Madeleine had said to them - even though they didn't have to and it would put them in a bad light if they did?   That doesn't sound like the actions of deceitful liars to me.  Quite the opposite in fact.

Are you naive enough to believe that people always tell the truth ?

Also, what does it say about the mccanns, if Madeleine complained about them being left alone, and yet they still carried on doing the same ?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #416 on: October 11, 2015, 09:21:22 AM »
Which was made to me and I explained that I couldn't empathise with the McCanns because I don't know what happened that night. The McCanns claim that they do know what happened; a window and shutter were opened and their child was taken. If true, that's awful and I could empathise, but what if it's not true? Then they have knowledge which I don't have, and without it how can I understand how they felt? It's possible to empathise with them only if you believe them.
the key phrase there is "I don't know".  As you don't know, and as you have no empathy for them, the best course of action IMO is to give them the benefit of the doubt and keep your snide remarks about their actions to yourself.  You may be right to doubt the McCanns and they may deserve your insinuations and suspicions, on the other hand thereis a very strong and real possibility that you are wrong, in which case that makes you (and all those who publicly voice their doubts) look both foolish and quite frankly rather unpleasant.  Your choice of course, my choice to keep on voicing this opinion.  In any case I know I can continue to do so,  safe in the knowledge that you are not in any way sensitive to such criticisms, and instead seem to rather relish them.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #417 on: October 11, 2015, 09:23:02 AM »
Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.
what a lot of long words in which to imply that you believe the McCanns to be liars.  Isn't that against forum rules?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #418 on: October 11, 2015, 09:23:45 AM »
I don't know.
so why imply it in the first place?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are the McCanns too sensitive to alternative points of view?
« Reply #419 on: October 11, 2015, 09:25:13 AM »
so why imply it in the first place?

So much whoosh.
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