Is the apportioning of blame a coping mechanism?

[Carana]

Trauma counselling may well be different from the generic process.

Supporting someone to work through potentially old existential issues may not require the same approach as someone who is at immediate risk of totally shutting down due to a recent trauma.

In the former, there is often time to explore a niggling concern; the latter would seem to be more urgent and may initially require more pro-active instructions to follow for those in a zombie state.

[Anna]

john i think if the mcanns  had said   to the world dont do  what we did etc it was wrong etc  more people would have felt sorry for them  but gerry said it was in the bounds of responsible parenting when non biased people know it  wasnt  &%&£(+

That is apparently what the Barrister said to Kate and Gerry, Carly.

International Family Law Group (IFLG) from Leicester.
Kate McCann's book "Madeleine" - Page 124-125?

Exerpt:-

There had already been some speculation in the

press, based on those erroneous reports that when

Madeleine was taken we were dining ‘hundreds of

metres away’, that we could face prosecution for

negligence. After examining the proximity of the

Tapas restaurant to apartment 5A, the barrister first

of all assured us that our behaviour could not be

deemed negligent and was indeed ‘well within the

bounds of reasonable parenting’.

[Mr Gray]

The author seems to have a problem distinguishing between advice and suggestion, but it's clear from the examples what the difference is. Advice is telling the client what they should do. Suggestion is a way of helping the client to identify the problems they are facing and to decide for themselves how to solve them.

advise


/ədˈvʌɪz/


verb

verb: advise; 3rd person present: advises; past tense: advised; past participle: advised; gerund or present participle: advising




offer suggestions about the best course of action to someone.
"I advised him to go home"


synonyms: counsel, give counsel, give counselling, give guidance, guide, make recommendations, offer suggestions, offer opinions, give hints, give tips, give pointers, direct, give direction(s), instruct, give instruction, illuminate, educate 



I think it's you who is having the problem admitting you are wrong...

[Mr Gray]

The author seems to have a problem distinguishing between advice and suggestion, but it's clear from the examples what the difference is. Advice is telling the client what they should do. Suggestion is a way of helping the client to identify the problems they are facing and to decide for themselves how to solve them.

the author you are correcting is...

Sharon K. Anderson, Ph.D., is a Professor of Counseling and Career Development in the School of Education at Colorado State University. She is also a licensed psychologist. Her research and writing focuses on issues such as professional ethics in psychology and counseling including multiple relationships, ethical acculturation, professional ethical identity, and ethical decision making.


but of course according to you she won't be very intelligent..so what does she know compared to you

[slartibartfast]

That is apparently what the Barrister said to Kate and Gerry, Carly.

International Family Law Group (IFLG) from Leicester.
Kate McCann's book "Madeleine" - Page 124-125?

Exerpt:-

There had already been some speculation in the

press, based on those erroneous reports that when

Madeleine was taken we were dining ‘hundreds of

metres away’, that we could face prosecution for

negligence. After examining the proximity of the

Tapas restaurant to apartment 5A, the barrister first

of all assured us that our behaviour could not be

deemed negligent and was indeed ‘well within the

bounds of reasonable parenting’.

They needed to consult a barrister?

[jassi]

They needed to consult a barrister?

Probably the brother -in-law of a  friend of a friend 

[Alfred R Jones]

When they are prefixed by the phrases quoted above no.

whyever not?

[Anna]

They needed to consult a barrister?

Apparently so, Slarti. He was part of a family law firm....According to the book, he was recommended by a friend of Gerry's

[Alfred R Jones]

I googled so as to have a quote and to save arguing. I already knew it wasn't the job of a counsellor to advise clients what to do.

Your argument would  carry more weight if you could provide a quote saying counsellor' s do advise clients? The problem you seem to be having is in understanding the difference between 'advice' and 'suggestion.'

advice is a suggestion, it's not an order!

[ShiningInLuz]

That is apparently what the Barrister said to Kate and Gerry, Carly.

International Family Law Group (IFLG) from Leicester.
Kate McCann's book "Madeleine" - Page 124-125?

Exerpt:-

There had already been some speculation in the

press, based on those erroneous reports that when

Madeleine was taken we were dining ‘hundreds of

metres away’, that we could face prosecution for

negligence. After examining the proximity of the

Tapas restaurant to apartment 5A, the barrister first

of all assured us that our behaviour could not be

deemed negligent and was indeed ‘well within the

bounds of reasonable parenting’.

I wonder how much he actually understood about Portuguese law, given that the decision not to prosecute the McCanns does not mention 'reasonable parenting'.  I wonder what the distance had to be to constitute 'unreasonable parenting'.

Having read both Amaral's book and Kate's book, both struck me as examples of PR or finger-pointing.

And returning strictly to the thread topic, I have heard or read many instances of qualified acceptance of blame by the McCanns, but I cannot remember a single unquailed one.

So if posters could enlighten me with examples of unqualified examples, I would be most grateful.

[Alice Purjorick]

They needed to consult a barrister?

or barista? it's the same phonetically

[Anna]

I wonder how much he actually understood about Portuguese law, given that the decision not to prosecute the McCanns does not mention 'reasonable parenting'.  I wonder what the distance had to be to constitute 'unreasonable parenting'.

Having read both Amaral's book and Kate's book, both struck me as examples of PR or finger-pointing.

And returning strictly to the thread topic, I have heard or read many instances of qualified acceptance of blame by the McCanns, but I cannot remember a single unquailed one.

So if posters could enlighten me with examples of unqualified examples, I would be most grateful.

I have no idea shining..Just quoting from the book.

[Alfred R Jones]

I'm afraid it's not as simple as you think. Giving advice is not part of a counsellor's job description.

Counsellors do not give advice, but help clients to make their own choices
http://www.prospects.ac.uk/counsellor_job_description.htm

This is who counselled the McCanns in Pdl in May 2007 - as you will see one of the first things on their list of services is offering advice 24/7

http://www.ccpsupport.co.uk/Trauma%20Care

[Alfred R Jones]

I wonder how much he actually understood about Portuguese law, given that the decision not to prosecute the McCanns does not mention 'reasonable parenting'.  I wonder what the distance had to be to constitute 'unreasonable parenting'.

Having read both Amaral's book and Kate's book, both struck me as examples of PR or finger-pointing.

And returning strictly to the thread topic, I have heard or read many instances of qualified acceptance of blame by the McCanns, but I cannot remember a single unquailed one.

So if posters could enlighten me with examples of unqualified examples, I would be most grateful.

The McCanns are not entirely to blame for Madeleine's disappearance so why do you expect them to state that they are?

[ferryman]

I wonder how much he actually understood about Portuguese law, given that the decision not to prosecute the McCanns does not mention 'reasonable parenting'.  I wonder what the distance had to be to constitute 'unreasonable parenting'.

Having read both Amaral's book and Kate's book, both struck me as examples of PR or finger-pointing.

And returning strictly to the thread topic, I have heard or read many instances of qualified acceptance of blame by the McCanns, but I cannot remember a single unquailed one.

So if posters could enlighten me with examples of unqualified examples, I would be most grateful.

I think there is a single, simple, reason why your request is unreasonable: responsibility for Madeleine's abduction rests with Madeleine's abductor ...