Do the McCanns have the same support eight years on?

[G-Unit]

It seems impossible to answer the thread question because we don't know what support the McCanns had eight years ago or what support they have now.

Initially they received a lot of support from the media, from certain well known people and from the populations of Luz and the UK.

The media support died away as more details became known, and when they became arguidos the media was mostly hostile. Then after several threatened libel actions the media became supportive again. Fair weather friends then, who will only be supportive when threatened.

The well known people who supported them have largely wandered off and are no longer heard about. They may be supportive or not, we don't know.

The population of Luz seem to think they are involved and just want the whole thing to go away.

The McCanns believed that Leicestershire police supported them until they were refused sight of the evidence held by that force, one of the reasons given being that;
 
"While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/

They had a lot of public support eight years ago with lots of money being donated to help them. Monetary support has declined over the years. We don't know if those people would donate again if the need arose.

Finally, there is support on the internet. Those who believe in the McCann's innocence proclaim it daily. They portray themselves as caring, empathetic, intelligent people who have considered all the evidence carefully before reaching their conclusions. In addition they daily castigate others who express doubt about the Mccann's version of events. They question their character and intelligence and accuse them of being cruel and vindictive, and of deliberately hampering the search for Madeleine. That shows that they don't inhabit the moral high ground as they try to claim because caring empathetic and intelligent people don't behave like that.

[Alfred R Jones]

It seems impossible to answer the thread question because we don't know what support the McCanns had eight years ago or what support they have now.

Initially they received a lot of support from the media, from certain well known people and from the populations of Luz and the UK.

The media support died away as more details became known, and when they became arguidos the media was mostly hostile. Then after several threatened libel actions the media became supportive again. Fair weather friends then, who will only be supportive when threatened.

The well known people who supported them have largely wandered off and are no longer heard about. They may be supportive or not, we don't know.

The population of Luz seem to think they are involved and just want the whole thing to go away.

The McCanns believed that Leicestershire police supported them until they were refused sight of the evidence held by that force, one of the reasons given being that;
 
"While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/

They had a lot of public support eight years ago with lots of money being donated to help them. Monetary support has declined over the years. We don't know if those people would donate again if the need arose.

Finally, there is support on the internet. Those who believe in the McCann's innocence proclaim it daily. They portray themselves as caring, empathetic, intelligent people who have considered all the evidence carefully before reaching their conclusions. In addition they daily castigate others who express doubt about the Mccann's version of events. They question their character and intelligence and accuse them of being cruel and vindictive, and of deliberately hampering the search for Madeleine. That shows that they don't inhabit the moral high ground as they try to claim because caring empathetic and intelligent people don't behave like that.

You forgot Kate McCann's bestselling book, which I would see as a measure of support, a book which despite the best efforts of the "sceptic" pressure group has managed to hold onto a 4 star rating on Amazon, the majority of which express sympathetic sentiments towards the McCann family, and let's not forget the money generated by its sales, supporting the Madeleine Fund.

As for your last comment, I think intelligent compassionate people stand up for innocent victims of crime who are being ripped to shreds and mocked and libelled day in day out, it's the decent thing to do IMO.

[jassi]

You forgot Kate McCann's bestselling book, which I would see as a measure of support, a book which despite the best efforts of the "sceptic" pressure group has managed to hold onto a 4 star rating on Amazon, the majority of which express sympathetic sentiments towards the McCann family, and let's not forget the money generated by its sales, supporting the Madeleine Fund.

As for your last comment, I think intelligent compassionate people stand up for innocent victims of crime who are being ripped to shreds and mocked and libelled day in day out, it's the decent thing to do IMO.

Only if they have nothing better to do with their time, hour after tedious hour, day in, day out.

[Brietta]

Only if they have nothing better to do with their time, hour after tedious hour, day in, day out.

Makes one wonder does it not if there is some effort at justification by the pot calling the kettle ... etc

I smile wryly on seeing your comment mirrored frequently particularly when there is no answer to what has precipitated it.

[Alice Purjorick]

You forgot Kate McCann's bestselling book, which I would see as a measure of support, a book which despite the best efforts of the "sceptic" pressure group has managed to hold onto a 4 star rating on Amazon, the majority of which express sympathetic sentiments towards the McCann family, and let's not forget the money generated by its sales, supporting the Madeleine Fund.

As for your last comment, I think intelligent compassionate people stand up for innocent victims of crime who are being ripped to shreds and mocked and libelled day in day out, it's the decent thing to do IMO.

Indeed for without the book royalties and earlier damages the fund would be in a parlous state.

[G-Unit]

You forgot Kate McCann's bestselling book, which I would see as a measure of support, a book which despite the best efforts of the "sceptic" pressure group has managed to hold onto a 4 star rating on Amazon, the majority of which express sympathetic sentiments towards the McCann family, and let's not forget the money generated by its sales, supporting the Madeleine Fund.

As for your last comment, I think intelligent compassionate people stand up for innocent victims of crime who are being ripped to shreds and mocked and libelled day in day out, it's the decent thing to do IMO.

I would expect intelligent compassionate people to behave with intelligence and compassion. Suggesting that others are less intelligent and compassionate isn't either intelligent or compassionate. Reasoned debate supported by evidence is the way to educate those we think are mistaken, not name calling. Name calling is never a decent thing to do, no matter how lofty one's aims or how just one's cause is believed to be.

[Brietta]

Indeed for without the book royalties and earlier damages the fund would be in a parlous state.

Which answers entirely ... "What about all the other missing children?"

As time progresses it is human nature to allow memories to slip, which is what happens to the Sandy Davidsons and Katrice Lees of this life.

Uniquely and against all the odds Madeleine McCann's parents have combated that situation and have come through to make Madeleine's disappearance as relevant today as it was when she disappeared.

In effect they have defied history if not gravity on their daughter's behalf.

In my opinion they deserve all the support they have received in the past and will continue to receive into the foreseeable future.

[Mr Gray]

I would expect intelligent compassionate people to behave with intelligence and compassion. Suggesting that others are less intelligent and compassionate isn't either intelligent or compassionate. Reasoned debate supported by evidence is the way to educate those we think are mistaken, not name calling. Name calling is never a decent thing to do, no matter how lofty one's aims or how just one's cause is believed to be.

like any teacher ..we more intelligent people get frustrated  with those who can or will not learn and will not listen to reason. I would definitely count myself as intelligent and compassionate.

[faithlilly]

You forgot Kate McCann's bestselling book, which I would see as a measure of support, a book which despite the best efforts of the "sceptic" pressure group has managed to hold onto a 4 star rating on Amazon, the majority of which express sympathetic sentiments towards the McCann family, and let's not forget the money generated by its sales, supporting the Madeleine Fund.

As for your last comment, I think intelligent compassionate people stand up for innocent victims of crime who are being ripped to shreds and mocked and libelled day in day out, it's the decent thing to do IMO.

I bought Kate's book and I know many other sceptics did too. So how can you see the numbers that bought it as 'a measure of support' ? Further many, many of the reviews for Kate's book are little short of scathing.

[Alfred R Jones]

I bought Kate's book and I know many other sceptics did too. So how can you see the numbers that bought it as 'a measure of support' ? Further many, many of the reviews for Kate's book are little short of scathing.

Like I said, despite the "many, many scathing reviews" left by the "sceptic" pressure group, the book's favourable reviews still far outnumber them - how do you account for this?  I was under the impression that most "sceptics" were very proud of the fact that they hadn't bought a copy of Kate's 'Satanic Verses' and instead allowed brave individuals such as yourself to sully your eyes and hands with the arduous task of transcribing the vomit-inducing contents onto the internet in order that your brethren may read it for free...?

[Angelo222]

It seems impossible to answer the thread question because we don't know what support the McCanns had eight years ago or what support they have now.

Initially they received a lot of support from the media, from certain well known people and from the populations of Luz and the UK.

The media support died away as more details became known, and when they became arguidos the media was mostly hostile. Then after several threatened libel actions the media became supportive again. Fair weather friends then, who will only be supportive when threatened.

The well known people who supported them have largely wandered off and are no longer heard about. They may be supportive or not, we don't know.

The population of Luz seem to think they are involved and just want the whole thing to go away.

The McCanns believed that Leicestershire police supported them until they were refused sight of the evidence held by that force, one of the reasons given being that;
 
"While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/

They had a lot of public support eight years ago with lots of money being donated to help them. Monetary support has declined over the years. We don't know if those people would donate again if the need arose.

Finally, there is support on the internet. Those who believe in the McCann's innocence proclaim it daily. They portray themselves as caring, empathetic, intelligent people who have considered all the evidence carefully before reaching their conclusions. In addition they daily castigate others who express doubt about the Mccann's version of events. They question their character and intelligence and accuse them of being cruel and vindictive, and of deliberately hampering the search for Madeleine. That shows that they don't inhabit the moral high ground as they try to claim because caring empathetic and intelligent people don't behave like that.

When I first came to follow this case I was under the impression that it was a straight forward example of a child abduction.  When I started delving into the files however I found it to be far from it.

The parents are viewed with suspicion by many people and the longer this goes on the worse it will get imo.

Madeleine is long gone and most probably hidden somewhere near to where she disappeared from imo.

[Alice Purjorick]

Which answers entirely ... "What about all the other missing children?"

As time progresses it is human nature to allow memories to slip, which is what happens to the Sandy Davidsons and Katrice Lees of this life.

Uniquely and against all the odds Madeleine McCann's parents have combated that situation and have come through to make Madeleine's disappearance as relevant today as it was when she disappeared.

In effect they have defied history if not gravity on their daughter's behalf.

In my opinion they deserve all the support they have received in the past and will continue to receive into the foreseeable future.

I don't understand, but then that is not surprising.
The point about the fund is that for it's continued survival, if the general trend to date is anything to go by, there will need to be a lot more damages and royalties forthcoming.

[Angelo222]

In my opinion they deserve all the support they have received in the past and will continue to receive into the foreseeable future.

I disagree, the moment they refused to cooperate fully with the Portuguese cops was the moment they destroyed any credibility they had.

[faithlilly]

Like I said, despite the "many, many scathing reviews" left by the "sceptic" pressure group, the book's favourable reviews still far outnumber them - how do you account for this?  I was under the impression that most "sceptics" were very proud of the fact that they hadn't bought a copy of Kate's 'Satanic Verses' and instead allowed brave individuals such as yourself to sully your eyes and hands with the arduous task of transcribing the vomit-inducing contents onto the internet in order that your brethren may read it for free...?

The audience this book was targeted at love a pot-boiler. I believe Kateie Price's books sell for the same reason.

[stephen25000]

So can I ask in what way you support Madeleine Stephen?   Presuming that is why you are on this forum,  to support Madeleine.

You don't support the investigation by SY the investigation,  that, if the McCann's hadn't petitioned for,  the opening of the case wouldn't have come about,  and therefore the investigation wouldn't have come about.

SY are investigating what happened to Madeleine and trying to find her.   You don't think this investigation should continue as it is wasting public money,  so how are you supporting Madeleine Stephen?

As you well know, I don't believe Madeleine is alive.

However,  those responsible need bringing to justice.