Was the PJ's biggest mistake not testing the twins straight away?

[Alfred R Jones]

You missed the bit where the police said they couldn't find a link to the other 5.

Nevertheless 1) he was a convicted criminal and 2) the police (possibly more expert in these matters than you) did not dismiss his possible involvement on the basis that people who commit suicide after committing a crime are unlikely to be serial offenders.

[Brietta]

This does not mean he was linked to this case.

The point you appear to be overlooking is that until a competent investigation is carried out which either rules in or rules out a suspect we have no idea who is or who is not "linked" to Madeleine's case.

The Drs McCann and their friends have been entirely ruled out as suspects both by the Portuguese in 2008 and the present dual investigations.
That's how it works ... once someone has been ruled out ... ie "cleared" it is time to progress to the next step.

That means that there is someone out there who knows what happened to Madeleine and it is not her parents.

One of the biggest mistakes of the Amaral investigation was to ignore that possibility ... a mistake you seem determined to perpetuate although your mistakes mean nothing.

Amaral's mistakes are catastrophic.                         

[Alice Purjorick]

Thank you.

Can you demonstrate that it was?  or that the receipt of the email communications advising that Von Aesch's vehicle was to be dismantled was even acknowledged?

I rather think the imminent and expected "nailing" of the prime suspects may have distracted the investigators from investigating.

Well a person with your undoubted intelligence and style would have slapped me down straightaway with a "cop that dummo" coupled with a cite should they have had the info I requested, rather than do an Erik von Danniken.

[slartibartfast]

The point you appear to be overlooking is that until a competent investigation is carried out which either rules in or rules out a suspect we have no idea who is or who is not "linked" to Madeleine's case.

The Drs McCann and their friends have been entirely ruled out as suspects both by the Portuguese in 2008 and the present dual investigations.
That's how it works ... once someone has been ruled out ... ie "cleared" it is time to progress to the next step.

That means that there is someone out there who knows what happened to Madeleine and it is not her parents.

One of the biggest mistakes of the Amaral investigation was to ignore that possibility ... a mistake you seem determined to perpetuate although your mistakes mean nothing.

Amaral's mistakes are catastrophic.                         

So once the Swiss link is ruled out, which it has, we should move on and stop using it as a deflection.

[Alfred R Jones]

So once the Swiss link is ruled out, which it has, we should move on and stop using it as a deflection.

Why do you persist in missing the point time after time?

[slartibartfast]

Why do you persist in missing the point time after time?

I don't, I understand that some people on here don't like it when their arguments are turned against them.

[Brietta]

Well a person with your undoubted intelligence and style would have slapped me down straightaway with a "cop that dummo" coupled with a cite should they have had the info I requested, rather than do an Erik von Danniken.

I would never respond to a fellow member "with a "cop that dummo" " even were that my opinion.

However I can work out from the information in the files that the Policia Judiciaria had neither the time nor the inclination to follow through on the information relayed to them from the Swiss.

It was too late for the Rebelo investigation to take up the offer of inspecting Von Aersch's suspect vehicle, if he was able to find the invitation among the alleged morass which passed as a filing system he inherited.

[Alfred R Jones]

I don't, I understand that some people on here don't like it when their arguments are turned against them.

You clearly DON'T understand the point otherwise you would realise that you have not succeeded in turning anyone's argument against them.  It is NOT deflection to comment on the fact that the PJ SHOULD not have dismissed a potential link to Von Aesch at the time, unless you can give me any good grounds for them to have done so?

[slartibartfast]

I would never respond to a fellow member "with a "cop that dummo" " even were that my opinion.

However I can work out from the information in the files that the Policia Judiciaria had neither the time nor the inclination to follow through on the information relayed to them from the Swiss.

It was too late for the Rebelo investigation to take up the offer of inspecting Von Aersch's suspect vehicle, if he was able to find the invitation among the alleged morass which passed as a filing system he inherited.

Do you have a cite for your last sentence.

[slartibartfast]

You clearly DON'T understand the point otherwise you would realise that you have not succeeded in turning anyone's argument against them.  It is NOT deflection to comment on the fact that the PJ SHOULD not have dismissed a potential link to Von Aesch at the time, unless you can give me any good grounds for them to have done so?

It is deflection when posters take it upon themselves to decide the competency of an investigation without full knowledge and hence what they will or will not count as time to move on.

[jassi]

You clearly DON'T understand the point otherwise you would realise that you have not succeeded in turning anyone's argument against them.  It is NOT deflection to comment on the fact that the PJ SHOULD not have dismissed a potential link to Von Aesch at the time, unless you can give me any good grounds for them to have done so?

Perhaps they decided that it was irrelevant and decided not to waste any effort on it.

[slartibartfast]

Perhaps they decided that it was irrelevant and decided not to waste any effort on it.

...and £12m later it appears that SY have confirmed the PJ view of all the leads.

[jassi]

Perhaps the PJ are  cleverer than some on here are willing to accept.

[Alfred R Jones]

It is deflection when posters take it upon themselves to decide the competency of an investigation without full knowledge and hence what they will or will not count as time to move on.

How are you defining "full knowledge"?  Are we no longer allowed to voice opinions based on known facts?  Brietta has voiced a perfectly legitimate observation - the fact that the PJ declined to investigate further a man who abducted a child as flagged by the Swiss police - on what basis did they decline to carry out further investigations?  How did they know before carrying out any investigation that this man was not involved?   

[Alfred R Jones]

Perhaps they decided that it was irrelevant and decided not to waste any effort on it.

Based on what?