Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website

[faithlilly]

The one thing this world is not short of is people who aren't very bright, and who cannot think logically or rationally.

Amen to that 

[G-Unit]

The one thing this world is not short of is people who aren't very bright, and who cannot think logically or rationally.

I find it's the illogical, irrational and rather dim who cannot sustain an argument and resort to personal attacks on others.

[Alfred R Jones]

Amen to that 

So we're agreed then that that is the reason why so many people seemed to suspect there was something wrong with the parents account.  In much the same way as over half of all Americans think their own government was behind 9/11 - stupidity and / or a desperate desire to buy into some deep dark conspiracy, by disregarding logic and rationality.

[Alfred R Jones]

The petition started by Tony Bennett?  How many petitions has that man started about the McCann case, and how many have resulted in anything even closely resembling a successful outcome I wonder?  Perhaps "Blonk" will fill us in on the details...

[Alfred R Jones]

Since "Blonk" posted a link to this petition 24 new signatures have been added, which must fill Tony Bennett's heart with gladness, however as the closing date is 26th April 2016 even at an average rate of say 10 new signatures a day, there is not a hope in hell of the petition reaching the first benchmark total of 10,000 signatures.  So I think we can safely predict another failure for Mr Bennett.

[Eleanor]

Since "Blonk" posted a link to this petition 24 new signatures have been added, which must fill Tony Bennett's heart with gladness, however as the closing date is 26th April 2016 even at an average rate of say 10 new signatures a day, there is not a hope in hell of the petition reaching the first benchmark total of 10,000 signatures.  So I think we can safely predict another failure for Mr Bennett.

Such a shame.  He is trying.

[G-Unit]

I don't see the point of the petition as the investigation is still 'live'. On the plus side it may serve as a reminder to the Prime Minister that the money spent on Operation Grange wasn't his money and that the general public may have a legitimate interest in being informed as to what it has achieved.

[blonk]

What on earth is the rationale behind raising a petition about the ongoing investigation into the case of a missing child?

If I didn't know better I would be thinking the fact there is an active investigation into Madeleine's disappearance is coming between some people and their rest.

The rationale behind the petition depends on your view of Operation Grange.

There are still some who believe that Operation Grange is an honest-to-goodness, full-hearted, no-holds-barred, without fear or favour, search for the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann. Even though it began with a strictly limited remit. Such people will regard this petition as inappropriate and pointless at best.

On the other hand, there is a growing number who have come to realise that Grange is a hugely expensive charade at the taxpayer's expense, designed purely to continue to influence public perception on the case. Such people may or may not support the petition depending on whether they think it will achieve anything.

But, well, 'nothing ventured, nothing gained'.

I suspect most of those who have signed have little hope that anything of value will be achieved by it. G-Unit summed this up as follows: "I don't see the point of the petition as the investigation is still 'live'. On the plus side it may serve as a reminder the Prime Minister that the money spent on Operation Grange wasn't his money and that the general public may have a legitimate interest in being informed as to what it has achieved". 

However, to date 1,322 have cheerfully signed it, a small way of registering a protest, perhaps, at the Operation Grange sham. If that is classed as 'failure' by many of the good members of this forum, well...I can live with that       

[Eleanor]

The rationale behind the petition depends on your view of Operation Grange.

There are still some who believe that Operation Grange is an honest-to-goodness, full-hearted, no-holds-barred, without fear or favour, search for the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann. Even though it began with a strictly limited remit. Such people will regard this petition as inappropriate and pointless at best.

On the other hand, there is a growing number who have come to realise that Grange is a hugely expensive charade at the taxpayer's expense, designed purely to continue to influence public perception on the case. Such people may or may not support the petition depending on whether they think it will achieve anything.

But, well, 'nothing ventured, nothing gained'.

I suspect most of those who have signed have little hope that anything of value will be achieved by it. G-Unit summed this up as follows: "I don't see the point of the petition as the investigation is still 'live'. On the plus side it may serve as a reminder the Prime Minister that the money spent on Operation Grange wasn't his money and that the general public may have a legitimate interest in being informed as to what it has achieved". 

However, to date 1,322 have cheerfully signed it, a small way of registering a protest, perhaps, at the Operation Grange sham. If that is classed as 'failure' by many of the good members of this forum, well...I can live with that     

Sham is not a good word in this instance.  Have a care, if you please.

[Brietta]

The rationale behind the petition depends on your view of Operation Grange.

There are still some who believe that Operation Grange is an honest-to-goodness, full-hearted, no-holds-barred, without fear or favour, search for the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann. Even though it began with a strictly limited remit. Such people will regard this petition as inappropriate and pointless at best.

On the other hand, there is a growing number who have come to realise that Grange is a hugely expensive charade at the taxpayer's expense, designed purely to continue to influence public perception on the case. Such people may or may not support the petition depending on whether they think it will achieve anything.

But, well, 'nothing ventured, nothing gained'.

I suspect most of those who have signed have little hope that anything of value will be achieved by it. G-Unit summed this up as follows: "I don't see the point of the petition as the investigation is still 'live'. On the plus side it may serve as a reminder the Prime Minister that the money spent on Operation Grange wasn't his money and that the general public may have a legitimate interest in being informed as to what it has achieved". 

However, to date 1,322 have cheerfully signed it, a small way of registering a protest, perhaps, at the Operation Grange sham. If that is classed as 'failure' by many of the good members of this forum, well...I can live with that     

I am rather hoping that the present live investigation being carried out by Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria may give the answer to what happened to Madeleine McCann without the let or hindrance which has dogged every and any initiative over nearly nine years which may lead to that end.

That yet another failed petition has managed to garner the signatures of 1,322 like minded people to yourself would appear to indicate that the majority of people have an opinion which mirrors mine.
That gives me some hope for the rationality of the Great British Public whose lives do not revolve around internet campaigns ... in particular those apparently designed to throw a spoke into the vehicle searching for a missing little girl.

[blonk]

Sham is not a good word in this instance.  Have a care, if you please.

I looked up the meaning of 'sham' in  the dictionary.

It said it means: "A thing that is not what it is purported to be".

That's certainly what I was suggesting about Operation Grange.

I've also used the word 'charade' about Grange - and I know what that means as well.

'Farce' would be another word that springs to mind   

[blonk]

That gives me some hope for the rationality of the Great British Public whose lives do not revolve around internet campaigns ... in particular those apparently designed to throw a spoke into the vehicle searching for a missing little girl.

What progress has this 'vehicle' made so far? It has certainly made a great deal of noise. Has the vehicle actually moved at all? How much actual progress has it made in identifying who was responsible for Madeleine's disappearance? Or where she is?

Alternatively, perhaps the vehicle HAS moved.

But in completely the wrong direction... 

[Mr Gray]

What progress has this 'vehicle' made so far? It has certainly made a great deal of noise. Has the vehicle actually moved at all? How much actual progress has it made in identifying who was responsible for Madeleine's disappearance? Or where she is?

Alternatively, perhaps the vehicle HAS moved.

But in completely the wrong direction...

From what I can see you have totally misunderstood the dog and dna evidence...you think these prove the mccanns involvement...the fact then that they have not been arrested means you must try to work out why grange has said they are not suspects....your only explanation can be that Grange is a sham and they are spending£11 million on a sham.....

the real truth is the dog and dna evidence prove nothing....the mccanns are not involved and Grange is trying to genuinely find out what happened

[stephen25000]

What progress has this 'vehicle' made so far? It has certainly made a great deal of noise. Has the vehicle actually moved at all? How much actual progress has it made in identifying who was responsible for Madeleine's disappearance? Or where she is?

Alternatively, perhaps the vehicle HAS moved.

But in completely the wrong direction...

Excellent points Blonk.

Well said.

I do think an inquiry would be a waste of time, as they normally are of course. Just wasting more tax payers money.

[Alfred R Jones]

The rationale behind the petition depends on your view of Operation Grange.

There are still some who believe that Operation Grange is an honest-to-goodness, full-hearted, no-holds-barred, without fear or favour, search for the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann. Even though it began with a strictly limited remit. Such people will regard this petition as inappropriate and pointless at best.

On the other hand, there is a growing number who have come to realise that Grange is a hugely expensive charade at the taxpayer's expense, designed purely to continue to influence public perception on the case. Such people may or may not support the petition depending on whether they think it will achieve anything.

But, well, 'nothing ventured, nothing gained'.

I suspect most of those who have signed have little hope that anything of value will be achieved by it. G-Unit summed this up as follows: "I don't see the point of the petition as the investigation is still 'live'. On the plus side it may serve as a reminder the Prime Minister that the money spent on Operation Grange wasn't his money and that the general public may have a legitimate interest in being informed as to what it has achieved". 

However, to date 1,322 have cheerfully signed it, a small way of registering a protest, perhaps, at the Operation Grange sham. If that is classed as 'failure' by many of the good members of this forum, well...I can live with that     

Have you worked out a logical and plausible reason for why the govt would agree to shell out £11m to knowingly perpetuate a sham in the case of a missing child?