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Offline blonk

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #450 on: March 01, 2016, 11:01:13 AM »
If it had been shown to the public - it would have been dismissed as photoshopped by some sceptics - and Mr Edmonds would have been accused of being yet another person who was party to this massive conspiracy.

While it remains undisclosed sceptics can convince themselves that it doesn't exist and Mr Edmonds is lying about it - because he is party to this massive conspiracy. 

So damned if he does and damned if he doesn't imo.

This all beings us back to the question of the paucity of photographs of Madeleine that week.

Leaving aside for a moment the two very controversial photos - the 'Last Photo' and the 'Tennis Balls' photo, which miraculously seems to have been taken on two different days by two different people - what are we left with? - just three, all obviously taken on the late Saturday afternoon just after they arrived in Praia da Luz.

Another matter to put into the mix regarding the photographs is that Gerry and Kate McCann didn't allow the PJ to look at their original photographs.

No, they preferred the route of summoning up their cousin Michael Wright from Skipton and no less a person than the Head of Risk for one of the world's leading - and most controversial and notorious - PR agencies, Alex Woolfall of Bell Pottinger.

To do what?

To view, select, delete, amend, omit and crop all their photographs on their SD card(s), and put what was left of them on to two CDs, handing them into the PJ on Wednesday 9 May. The result was the useless 'grey-scale' images we see in the PJ files.

And why exactly was the Head of Risk for Bell Pottinger out in Praia da Luz on Friday 4 May anyway? Madeleine could have been found alive and well as he was flying out from Gatwick to Faro.   

Undoubtedly there is a very deep mystery about the photographs taken on that holiday                   

Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #451 on: March 01, 2016, 11:02:11 AM »
Let's get some accuracy here.

Your statement above should read:

Philip Edmonds was the man who says he gave police a photograph of his children with Madeleine in the background.

Have the police confirmed receipt of this alleged photograph?

NO

Is there any particular reason why they should?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #452 on: March 01, 2016, 11:03:33 AM »
This all beings us back to the question of the paucity of photographs of Madeleine that week.

Leaving aside for a moment the two very controversial photos - the 'Last Photo' and the 'Tennis Balls' photo, which miraculously seems to have been taken on two different days by two different people - what are we left with? - just three, all obviously taken on the late Saturday afternoon just after they arrived in Praia da Luz.

Another matter to put into the mix regarding the photographs is that Gerry and Kate McCann didn't allow the PJ to look at their original photographs.

No, they preferred the route of summoning up their cousin Michael Wright from Skipton and no less a person than the Head of Risk for one of the world's leading - and most controversial and notorious - PR agencies, Alex Woolfall of Bell Pottinger.

To do what?

To view, select, delete, amend, omit and crop all their photographs on their SD card(s), and put what was left of them on to two CDs, handing them into the PJ on Wednesday 9 May. The result was the useless 'grey-scale' images we see in the PJ files.

And why exactly was the Head of Risk for Bell Pottinger out in Praia da Luz on Friday 4 May anyway? Madeleine could have been found alive and well as he was flying out from Gatwick to Faro.   

Undoubtedly there is a very deep mystery about the photographs taken on that holiday                   

And how many of Kate?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Erngath

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #453 on: March 01, 2016, 11:04:04 AM »
I think you exaggerate the degree of difficulty, but that's OK, it's not my role in life to persuade you otherwise.

Well thank goodness for that because you are not having any success.  8((()*/
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline blonk

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #454 on: March 01, 2016, 11:05:23 AM »
What nonsense. They investigate a lot more than you know. Your theory is madness. You can't make a girl disappear all week when she was seen by many nannies.

We have a statement from a cleaner who saw all members of the McCann family on the Sunday lunchtime. It is a clear, detailed statement.

Leaving aside the testimony of Catriona Baker, you refer to Madeleine 'being seen by many nannies'.

Could you please give a link to a nanny statement that week (apart from Cat Baker) which in your view gives us the clearest possible evidence of Madeleine being alive after Sunday. 

Offline jassi

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #455 on: March 01, 2016, 11:07:29 AM »
And how many of Kate?

I'm sure I read somewhere that Kate was  more interested in photography than was Gerry, so it is only to be expected that there might be few pictures of her. However, it is passing strange that there appear to be no photo's of her husband displaying his prowess on the tennis court.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2016, 11:13:31 AM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #456 on: March 01, 2016, 11:09:38 AM »
We have a statement from a cleaner who saw all members of the McCann family on the Sunday lunchtime. It is a clear, detailed statement.

Leaving aside the testimony of Catriona Baker, you refer to Madeleine 'being seen by many nannies'.

Could you please give a link to a nanny statement that week (apart from Cat Baker) which in your view gives us the clearest possible evidence of Madeleine being alive after Sunday. 

They are easy to find - introducing herself as Maddie. Here's the tennis instructor confirming Madeleine alive on Tuesday.

"Madeleine, it being that the child also had a class, on Tuesday, 1 May (10-11h00), that class [in which] she was among a group of children was conducted by the deponent."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Georgina_Jackson.htm

That's the day the tennis ball photo was taken. It's not fake. Pamela Fenn heard her crying for daddy that night. Fenn was in on nothing! Barmy conspiracy theories must be whooshed.

« Last Edit: March 01, 2016, 11:14:25 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #457 on: March 01, 2016, 11:10:44 AM »
Let's get some accuracy here.

Your statement above should read:

Philip Edmonds was the man who says he gave police a photograph of his children with Madeleine in the background.

Have the police confirmed receipt of this alleged photograph?

NO

Do they have to?

Offline Erngath

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #458 on: March 01, 2016, 11:12:38 AM »
I'm sure I read somewhere that Kate was  more interested in photography than Gerry was, so it is only to be expected that there might be few pictures of her. However, it is passing strange that there appear to be no photo's of her husband displaying his prowess on the tennis court.

Perhaps there are photos that the family have not published. I can't see how one of Gerry playing tennis would be
helpful to the investigation.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #459 on: March 01, 2016, 11:13:55 AM »
I'm sure I read somewhere that Kate was  more interested in photography than was Gerry, so it is only to be expected that there might be few pictures of her. However, it is passing strange that there appear to be no photo's of her husband displaying his prowess on the tennis court.

Why would we want to see those?

Offline xtina

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #460 on: March 01, 2016, 11:14:03 AM »
Why would Kate McCann mention everyone she met on holiday in her book?

Why would Mrs. Boyd lie?   her son was playing with Madeleine and she spoke to Kate,  I think she would remember that somehow after seeing posters of Madeleine everywhere.

Why would all the friends and Dianne Webster lie to the police?

well it was suppose to be such a memorable afternoon

i am not saying she lied ...she could have thought it was maddie .....after all its just a story in a magazine ...not sure if she received payment for it .......not classed as credable ...though is it

how many times have you seen a child who looks like maddie ...even my family members could resemble maddie .,.,.as in supermarkets child groups ...no disrespect to maddie ...but there was nothing striking that you would remember [like jet black/ginger//mass of curls hair dark skinned] ..standing out in a crowd...just a cute pretty little girl ...like most three year olds.

Dr Russell O'Brien.went to the reception to sort out the meals it was said with maddie ....it wasn't ..it was his daughter Elle

it is possible ....all these people thought it was maddie they saw .....after all why at the time should they have defiantly known who maddie was
 
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline jassi

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #461 on: March 01, 2016, 11:15:12 AM »
Why would we want to see those?

I doubt few of us would, but think of the PR opportunities  @)(++(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline blonk

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #462 on: March 01, 2016, 11:17:13 AM »
Perhaps there are photos that the family have not published.

Speculation.

'Perhaps'.

Not evidence

Offline Carana

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #463 on: March 01, 2016, 11:19:58 AM »
I'm sure I read somewhere that Kate was  more interested in photography than was Gerry, so it is only to be expected that there might be few pictures of her. However, it is passing strange that there appear to be no photo's of her husband displaying his prowess on the tennis court.

Why would any such photos be relevant?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb
« Reply #464 on: March 01, 2016, 11:20:54 AM »
Speculation.

'Perhaps'.

Not evidence

You have no evidence. Claiming photos are fake without any evidence. Tennis instructor confirmed Madeleine was present on Tuesday when this photo was taken and the documentary claims it fake. You really need to do proper research before looking like the biggest clown in the McCann circus.

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.