Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb

[Lace]

well i think you would find they would have asked for a recent photo ...

if we are speculating what they asked for ....

All the recent photo's didn't show a full on face did they?

[Lace]

why was maddie taken back to the creche.........

when all her other friends went to the beach...how sad must that have been for her

why after the sunday ...did the mccs eat alone...in there apartment

the picnic lunch at the Payne's apartment ...why was maddie/twins not took there

where was they seen anywhere ..as a family of 5..after sunday



there is very little info ..in police files...or k mccs book of what the mccs  did with the children them six days  ...only what they did....it makes you wonder why they tool maddie/twins at all

why did they bother taking a camera ...to take five photo,s

The McCann's had booked tennis lessons.   Fiona said that they were asked but they had other things on,  another thing I noticed was that Fiona said Kate told her Sean didn't like the sand.

They found it easier to eat in their own apartment,   they had twins as well as Madeleine and they had their own routine.

The children enjoyed themselves in the crèche,  they had already had a holiday Easter time, it wasn't as if they hadn't seen the sea and sand before.

I see nothing wrong with the McCann's having some 'me' time, they worked hard and deserved it.  The other alternative would have been to have left them at home, and that would have been hard work for a  mother to deal with unless they split them up.   There is nothing to say that the children didn't enjoy their holiday, they played with other children they went on outings etc.  Madeleine looked very happy.

[xtina]

The McCann's had booked tennis lessons.   Fiona said that they were asked but they had other things on,  another thing I noticed was that Fiona said Kate told her Sean didn't like the sand.

They found it easier to eat in their own apartment,   they had twins as well as Madeleine and they had their own routine.

The children enjoyed themselves in the crèche,  they had already had a holiday Easter time, it wasn't as if they hadn't seen the sea and sand before.

I see nothing wrong with the McCann's having some 'me' time, they worked hard and deserved it.  The other alternative would have been to have left them at home, and that would have been hard work for a  mother to deal with unless they split them up.   There is nothing to say that the children didn't enjoy their holiday, they played with other children they went on outings etc.  Madeleine looked very happy.

The McCann's had booked tennis lessons.   Fiona said that they were asked but they had other things on,  another thing I noticed was that Fiona said Kate told her Sean didn't like the sand.

They found it easier to eat in their own apartment,   they had twins as well as Madeleine and they had their own routine.

The children enjoyed themselves in the crèche,  they had already had a holiday Easter time, it wasn't as if they hadn't seen the sea and sand before.


you know all this first hand do you ...

where does maddie look happy

fiona had other  things on ....yes spending time with children while on holiday..thats what you do

they went as a group ...yet did things seperatly

the mcc children enjoyed themselves.they spent the day in the creche ...and the nights alone

[Lace]

The McCann's had booked tennis lessons.   Fiona said that they were asked but they had other things on,  another thing I noticed was that Fiona said Kate told her Sean didn't like the sand.

They found it easier to eat in their own apartment,   they had twins as well as Madeleine and they had their own routine.

The children enjoyed themselves in the crèche,  they had already had a holiday Easter time, it wasn't as if they hadn't seen the sea and sand before.


you know all this first hand do you ...

where does maddie look happy

fiona had other  things on ....yes spending time with children while on holiday..thats what you do

they went as a group ...yet did things seperatly

the mcc children enjoyed themselves.they spent the day in the creche ...and the nights alone

I know it from reading the statements.

Madeleine looked happy in all the photo's taken of her.

I said Kate and Gerry had other things on not Fiona,   the McCann's did spend time with their children,  they had a holiday at Easter before they went to Portugal,  the holiday in Portugal was for the McCann's to have a break as well as the children.

They did things separately as the McCann's had their own routine,  plus they had booked tennis lessons.

The McCann's enjoyed themselves playing with other children at the crèche and going on outings with the crèche and seeing their parents in between, playing in the children's playground etc.  They spent the night asleep in their beds as all children do.

If you are trying to say that because the McCann's had a holiday that was for them as well as the children and this makes them out to be some nasty uncaring parents then you are mistaken.   Madeleine was having fun at the crèche, after their trip to the beach with Kate and Gerry she asked to go back,  she was practising for a dance that would have been performed on the Friday, but sadly didn't happen.

Madeleine was seen all that week, but nannies,  friends,  the cleaner,  Mrs. Boyd and Mr. Edmonds are all either lying or mistaken,  rubbish.

[xtina]

@ lac e

Madeleine looked happy in all the photo's taken of her.


ALL the photo's....they took four......over a period of six days....

[Carana]

Are you confusing the police with the passport office?

Erm, then, erm, there’s a period of time where, where we didn’t search and, erm, we were trying to do things, you know, nearby, erm, one of the, one of the things we tried to do after the Police, the local GNR Police had arrived, was we tried to get, we tried to get the photograph, erm, Kate certainly had some on her camera, they were looking for one, you know, face on that was big enough rather than a, you know, a profile or something, so that took a little while, we then didn’t have any means of printing it and a lot of the MARK WARNER staff were around including John the Manager, I think it was Kat the Nanny, erm, but certainly one of the Nannies made, you know, certainly had found, found either a, well either a printer themselves that would print only from cameras or at least, erm, a connection to the printer that we could use for the card, I can’t remember what the equipment was in the end, but all of this took quite a, quite a while to get hold of.

Russ, rog.

[Lace]

@ lac e

Madeleine looked happy in all the photo's taken of her.


ALL the photo's....they took four......over a period of six days....

All the photo's we the public were shown,   there may have been many others but had members of the public in them or the friends children.

[Carana]

@ lac e

Madeleine looked happy in all the photo's taken of her.


ALL the photo's....they took four......over a period of six days....

According to whom?

[G-Unit]

I know it from reading the statements.

Madeleine looked happy in all the photo's taken of her.

I said Kate and Gerry had other things on not Fiona,   the McCann's did spend time with their children,  they had a holiday at Easter before they went to Portugal,  the holiday in Portugal was for the McCann's to have a break as well as the children.

They did things separately as the McCann's had their own routine,  plus they had booked tennis lessons.

The McCann's enjoyed themselves playing with other children at the crèche and going on outings with the crèche and seeing their parents in between, playing in the children's playground etc.  They spent the night asleep in their beds as all children do.

If you are trying to say that because the McCann's had a holiday that was for them as well as the children and this makes them out to be some nasty uncaring parents then you are mistaken.   Madeleine was having fun at the crèche, after their trip to the beach with Kate and Gerry she asked to go back,  she was practising for a dance that would have been performed on the Friday, but sadly didn't happen.

Madeleine was seen all that week, but nannies,  friends,  the cleaner,  Mrs. Boyd and Mr. Edmonds are all either lying or mistaken,  rubbish.

Mrs Boyd? The woman who saw Madeleine going down the non-existent waterslide?

[ShiningInLuz]

I am well aware the tide turned
Because of the lies told by amaral and the PJ
Rather than refer to my post as rubbish why not answer the point raised
Is it because you cannot
The fact that you want to ignore the point destroys your credibility.... So carry on if you wish

What point?

You asserted that the errors in Crimewatch were not significant.

I have demonstrated otherwise.

Don't concern yourself with my credibility.  Your opinion of my credibility is simply your opinion.  And based on your previous posts on the topic of opinion, not worth worrying about.

Is it possible we could stop this childish exchange and get back on-topic?

[Lace]

Mrs Boyd? The woman who saw Madeleine going down the non-existent waterslide?

That was obviously a misprint, it should probably have said slide.   Madeleine wasn't dressed to go in the pool,  Mrs. Boyd give the description of what Madeleine was wearing,  a top and skirt,  hardly clothes she would wear to go down a water slide.

[jassi]

All the photo's we the public were shown,   there may have been many others but had members of the public in them or the friends children.

I'm sure they could have photoshopped them out   

[Alfred R Jones]

The recon wasn't pointless regardless of the errors.

The recon rendered the Smithman part pointless, because of the error.  Or even worse.  Smithman headed to the sea, according to Crimewatch. 

So if you vaguely thought you might have passed the Smiths that night, but you know for certain you did not head to the sea, would you enter the lions' den?  Or would you just think - nah, can't be me, I never headed to the sea?

The salient points would be: 1) was I carrying a child through the streets that night, 2)did I pass the spot where the Smiths say they saw me, 3) do I remember passing a big group of tourists.  If the answer was yes to two or more of those and I was not an abductor then I can think of no reason why I should fear coming forward to be eliminated, and minor errors in the reconstruction would not deter me from doing so.  However, I'm wondering if Smithman might have been a tourist from a country where maybe there was not so much coverage of the case after the initial few days, maybe Russia perhaps?  He may still to this day have no inkling that he is a "wanted" man.  Do you get many Russians holidaying in PdL?

[Mr Gray]

What point?

You asserted that the errors in Crimewatch were not significant.

I have demonstrated otherwise.

Don't concern yourself with my credibility.  Your opinion of my credibility is simply your opinion.  And based on your previous posts on the topic of opinion, not worth worrying about.

Is it possible we could stop this childish exchange and get back on-topic?

I replied to your post on why the Portuguese turned against the McCanns
You failed to mention the lies told by amaral and the PJ
That is a major .... Major omission which puts doubts against your credibility
Would you not accept the lies told played a big part in the turn against the McCanns

[Alice Purjorick]

Erm, then, erm, there’s a period of time where, where we didn’t search and, erm, we were trying to do things, you know, nearby, erm, one of the, one of the things we tried to do after the Police, the local GNR Police had arrived, was we tried to get, we tried to get the photograph, erm, Kate certainly had some on her camera, they were looking for one, you know, face on that was big enough rather than a, you know, a profile or something, so that took a little while, we then didn’t have any means of printing it and a lot of the MARK WARNER staff were around including John the Manager, I think it was Kat the Nanny, erm, but certainly one of the Nannies made, you know, certainly had found, found either a, well either a printer themselves that would print only from cameras or at least, erm, a connection to the printer that we could use for the card, I can’t remember what the equipment was in the end, but all of this took quite a, quite a while to get hold of.

Russ, rog.

There is a slight difference in the above statement and the one made by Lace. ie full on face with no obstruction was NOT a mandatory requirement as suggested in Lace's post.
I am sure if the only pic to be had was a oblique view the cops would have run with it.