Richard Hall's film 'When Madeleine Died?' uploaded to YouTube 19th Feb

[Robittybob1]

They are long but I am prepared to believe that he is doing what he believes to be a complete overview. I think he mentions this several times in presentations he has done.

The problem is I still feel, despite his research that he is not thinking through his theory to a realistic conclusion. I think if I was to meet Mr Hall, my first question would be what is his understanding of the mechanics of a high level cover up and what cover ups he has studied to draw comparisons.

Good luck at getting in contact with him.

[The Singularity]

Good luck at getting in contact with him.

Is he a hard man to pin down? I do remember he made some reference to being interviewed by a freelance journalist that he turned down due to his conditions not being met.

[Brietta]

I have been slowly going through Mr Hall's videos on You Tube and looked at his website. His other videos aside which have no bearing on Madeleine's case, he does put together what information he has and presents it concisely. I can understand why many people favour these videos over others as a top down four hour overview of the case.

Having said that I do feel that Mr Hall is being pulled off in a certain direction which leaves him open to close scrutiny that doesn't add up. For example, his theory is that Madeleine died, a high level cover up ensued which led to Madeleine's body being hidden and then stored in the new hire car some two weeks later. I hope I have summerised his theory correctly. Here is where I have a disagreement with Mr Hall's conclusion. If a high level cover up was being carried out, is it likely that the parents would be left to conceal, hold and dispose of the body knowing that at any time, they being the weakest links in the cover up could be discovered and expose those involved?

High level cover up means just that, not just the crime on the ground, physical evidence etc, but all the subsequent investigations and evidence. Even control of the media narrative. Now many would say, Mr Hall as well I would suspect, that most of these things did happen and therefore are indicative of the high level cover up. Except for the glaring theory he has about Madeleine's body still being in the back of a hire car. It's just not the way cover ups are done.

Any way, I continue to watch his videos with great interest

Well done, you!  I did try ... but found it impossible.  I forget now what the first inaccuracy in his narrative was that made my lip curl ... but by the time he had chalked up two or three in a very short space of time, I decided I'd had enough.

I think you have hit precisely on the nub of the myth making bang on.

If these people so beloved of conspiracy theorists really do exist and have the capabilities they are believed to possess ... why on earth have we even heard of Madeleine McCann?

[The Singularity]

If these people so beloved of conspiracy theorists really do exist and have the capabilities they are believed to possess ... why on earth have we even heard of Madeleine McCann?

Exactly, most of the cover ups that we now know of are carried out with ruthless efficiency, and those are the ones that have been made public for whatever reason.

A small group of people in the past have had all sorts of theories including she never existed can you believe, that and she was cloned from WW2 technology. The mind boggles it really does

[G-Unit]

Exactly, most of the cover ups that we now know of are carried out with ruthless efficiency, and those are the ones that have been made public for whatever reason.

A small group of people in the past have had all sorts of theories including she never existed can you believe, that and she was cloned from WW2 technology. The mind boggles it really does

In two cases which spring to mind; Jimmy Savile and Hillsborough, the police have been remiss. If the police don't investigate and no-one makes them that seems to be all that's needed. Savile's behaviour was 'an open secret' since the 1960's.

[Brietta]

Exactly, most of the cover ups that we now know of are carried out with ruthless efficiency, and those are the ones that have been made public for whatever reason.

A small group of people in the past have had all sorts of theories including she never existed can you believe, that and she was cloned from WW2 technology. The mind boggles it really does

When it boils down to it I'm a conspiracy theorist of the first degree concerning everything and anything on initial exposure to the 'evidence' presented.  I do go further than that though and read further into it.  Disappointingly in almost one hundred percent of cases, few real conspiracy theories stand up to close scrutiny.

There isn't really much excuse for people like Richard Hall to perpetuate myth and misconception.  Particularly if it causes harm.  I think part of their research must include what goes down well with their target audience and they play to that.

These Madeleine 'experts' seem to promise great expectations ... but in my experience deliver none.

[stephen25000]

When it boils down to it I'm a conspiracy theorist of the first degree concerning everything and anything on initial exposure to the 'evidence' presented.  I do go further than that though and read further into it.  Disappointingly in almost one hundred percent of cases, few real conspiracy theories stand up to close scrutiny.

There isn't really much excuse for people like Richard Hall to perpetuate myth and misconception.  Particularly if it causes harm.  I think part of their research must include what goes down well with their target audience and they play to that.

These Madeleine 'experts' seem to promise great expectations ... but in my experience deliver none.

So just like abduction Brietta.

[The Singularity]

There isn't really much excuse for people like Richard Hall to perpetuate myth and misconception.  Particularly if it causes harm.  I think part of their research must include what goes down well with their target audience and they play to that.

Have to agree here as if you take a look at some of the other topics Mr Hall takes an interest in, they are deep core conspiracy.

And lets be honest, Madeleine's case has had it's fair share of deep core conspiracies

[stephen25000]

Have to agree here as if you take a look at some of the other topics Mr Hall takes an interest in, they are deep core conspiracy.

And lets be honest, Madeleine's case has had it's fair share of deep core conspiracies

You mean like those McCann supporters who Believe Madeleine was the sign of/or the second coming, and that some of them came form the bloodline of Jesus ?

[The Singularity]

You mean like those McCann supporters who Believe Madeleine was the sign of/or the second coming, and that some of them came form the bloodline of Jesus ?

Sorry to have to correct you on this one but I am fairly confident that the initial conspiracy that Madeleine was blood line came from those who believed her parents were covering a crime up. It was a very convoluted theory that began on the Mirror forum and then took off on a private forum. To be brief, the conspiracy was hatched in an attempt to make Mr and Mrs McCann look less religious because they had offered Madeleine for a sacrifice to appease some deity, and as such could not be Catholics. I'm not too sure but I think it was the Masons who were involved with it as well but I could be wrong. Either way, that theory definitely started with people who did not believe the McCanns.

[Robittybob1]

You mean like those McCann supporters who Believe Madeleine was the sign of/or the second coming, and that some of them came form the bloodline of Jesus ?

If you took that example a bit further the [ censored word] would become the Antichrist.

[stephen25000]

Sorry to have to correct you on this one but I am fairly confident that the initial conspiracy that Madeleine was blood line came from those who believed her parents were covering a crime up. It was a very convoluted theory that began on the Mirror forum and then took off on a private forum. To be brief, the conspiracy was hatched in an attempt to make Mr and Mrs McCann look less religious because they had offered Madeleine for a sacrifice to appease some deity, and as such could not be Catholics. I'm not too sure but I think it was the Masons who were involved with it as well but I could be wrong. Either way, that theory definitely started with people who did not believe the McCanns.

I suggest you look at Nigel Nessling's blogs for that, and his followers. *&*%£

[The Singularity]

I suggest you look at Nigel Nessling's blogs for that, and his followers. *&*%£

I don't need to, I am familiar with Vee8's comments and thoughts. However as I said, the initial conspiracy regardless of Vee8's later contribution was started by people who questioned Madeleine's parents honesty. 

[Robittybob1]

I suggest you look at Nigel Nessling's blogs for that, and his followers. *&*%£

The bells were ringing and the people were singing Na na na na ...

[stephen25000]

I don't need to, I am familiar with Vee8's comments and thoughts. However as I said, the initial conspiracy regardless of Vee8's later contribution was started by people who questioned Madeleine's parents honesty.

Do you have a link ?