Why don't people believe the Mccanns story of Abduction ?

[Alfred R Jones]

The moving door was highlighted by the McCanns, no-one else made a big thing out of it.

And now you're using it against them, does this make any sense?

[Alice Purjorick]

Did someone shout bingo...

Nah Someone tried to slip me a Belgian Waffle 

[Lace]

If he was in the children's bedroom and heard the patio doors sliding where could he hide? If he exited the bedroom he would have been seen. How would an accomplice warn him? By phone? shouting? Matt was there long enough to see the twins breathing (one of them he saw breathing was in a cot with a solid end). He described the colour of the closed curtains.

He could have been warned as soon as the accomplice saw Gerry leave the Tapas Bar,  and so have plenty of time to leave the children's bedroom,   he wouldn't be thinking about closing the door to the exact amount the McCann's had left it either.

The accomplice could have rang him,   he could have had his phone on vibrate.

[Lace]

Surely, in that case, one of the twins would also have been ideal.
A bereaved parent looking for a replacement wouldn't necessarily be too choosy

A baby would have been much riskier,   screaming baby couldn't be calmed down by someone saying 'don't worry Mummy and Daddy asked me to look after you for a while'   or similar.

Nappies all sorts.

Or who ever wanted her wanted a child of three.

[Benice]

He had a phone. He was using it a lot once the police arrived and telling everyone about the abductor. He didn't even tell Mrs Fenn it was his own daughter that had gone missing. A little girl has gone missing. Some refer to that as distancing &%+((£

It was pretty noisy at the time Mrs Fenn thought he said 'A little girl has gone missing'.   I think it's far more likely that he said 'OUR little girl has gone missing'.     An easy mistake for Mrs Fenn to make from a distance - even more so if you take into account Gerry's accent. 

[G-Unit]

He could have been warned as soon as the accomplice saw Gerry leave the Tapas Bar,  and so have plenty of time to leave the children's bedroom,   he wouldn't be thinking about closing the door to the exact amount the McCann's had left it either.

The accomplice could have rang him,   he could have had his phone on vibrate.

Nerves of steel these abductors. Most of us would have been out of there double quick. So why didn't Matt see the open window, shutters and curtains? Why didn't the super-sleeper twins wake up shivering on this very cold night? Too many questions and not enough sensible answers for me, I'm afraid.

[stephen25000]

It was pretty noisy at the time Mrs Fenn thought he said 'A little girl has gone missing'.   I think it's far more likely that he said 'OUR little girl has gone missing'.     An easy mistake for Mrs Fenn to make from a distance - even more so if you take into account Gerry's accent.

''where is the child''

[ferryman]

''where is the child''

Ben Needham, you mean?

No one (at least of honest mind) has any idea.

[Alice Purjorick]

Nerves of steel these abductors. Most of us would have been out of there double quick. So why didn't Matt see the open window, shutters and curtains? Why didn't the super-sleeper twins wake up shivering on this very cold night? Too many questions and not enough sensible answers for me, I'm afraid.

I'll drink to that!

[stephen25000]

Nerves of steel these abductors. Most of us would have been out of there double quick. So why didn't Matt see the open window, shutters and curtains? Why didn't the super-sleeper twins wake up shivering on this very cold night? Too many questions and not enough sensible answers for me, I'm afraid.

Can they bend steel bars with their hands ? %£5&% %£5&%

[pathfinder73]

We've been through all this before.

The door positions were noted retrospectively.  You are using the benefit of hindsight which the checkers did not have at the time.

Therefore as a reason to doubt that Madeleine was abducted it does not even reach first base.

I'm stating facts from the actual witnesses. The McCanns were always going on about the moving door. The first door moves connects to patsy but the window doesn't! The unforeseen checker changed everything. Two were involved in this pre-planned operation.

8:30 door ajar - children asleep - window/shutters closed
8:58 Matt listening check - window/shutters closed
9:02 door half-open (first move) - children asleep - Madeleine in same sleeping position according to the father
9:03 back to ajar window closed
9:30 door half-open (second move) window closed - Matt (didn't enter the room to see if Madeleine was in bed)
9:52 door wide open (third move) mother finds window open/whooshing curtains

The first two doors moves connects to patsy taking Madeleine away i.e. taken away after Gerry checked.

The third door move and whooshing curtains connects to another i.e. two are involved and worked as a team.

[pathfinder73]

It was pretty noisy at the time Mrs Fenn thought he said 'A little girl has gone missing'.   I think it's far more likely that he said 'OUR little girl has gone missing'.     An easy mistake for Mrs Fenn to make from a distance - even more so if you take into account Gerry's accent.

Stop making excuses. Kate was probably annoyed because she offered to call the cops before they actually did and her changing that time to 11pm is desperate stuff. Who does she think she is trying to fool by changing timelines. SY should be looking closely at the timeline because they have been trying to change it since day 1 and sadly getting away with it. You only have to look at the first timelines and they went to check at first light when Fiona said it was still cold and dark when they left. They may easily fool you but it don't work on me!

[Lace]

Nerves of steel these abductors. Most of us would have been out of there double quick. So why didn't Matt see the open window, shutters and curtains? Why didn't the super-sleeper twins wake up shivering on this very cold night? Too many questions and not enough sensible answers for me, I'm afraid.

I presume they had heating in 5a?

Matthew was concentrating on looking at the twins,    he said he thought it was lighter in the room,  he thought the moon was out,  read his statement.

[Carana]

Stop making excuses. Kate was probably annoyed because she offered to call the cops before they actually did and her changing that time to 11pm is desperate stuff. Who does she think she is trying to fool by changing timelines. SY should be looking closely at the timeline because they have been trying to change it since day 1 and sadly getting away with it. You only have to look at the first timelines and they went to check at first light when Fiona said it was still cold and dark when they left. They may easily fool you but it don't work on me!

The first glimpse of dawn isn't the same as broad daylight.

[pathfinder73]

The first glimpse of dawn isn't the same as broad daylight.

Can you remember what sort of time that was roughly''
 
FP:  'Erm it was still very cold and, and dark, erm I think it was you know, between five and six, I say, I say, I think we'd, we'd, we'd just dozed off, so erm it was still very early.