Sadie's theory.

[stephen25000]

PDL will be tainted by what the mccanns failed to do for many years, and going on a detective hunt Is also in bad taste.

[Eleanor]

Sadie's Theory, if you please.

[G-Unit]

It's interesting that we are now back to the round globe street lighting as seen in this more recent Google Street View picture from February 2015.   Gas tank at block 6 and floodlight mounted on block 5 can also be seen.

Round and clear. The ones in May 2007 were round and opaque;

[Angelo222]

I'm in total agreement........ I would find it a very sad place to visit and I would be angry if the nastiness we are led to believe exists there against the McCanns was expressed......
There are far better places to holiday than tainted Luz

Is that tainted by the stupidity of a couple of UK tourists?

[Angelo222]

Round and clear. The ones in May 2007 were round and opaque;

I've never seen a place change its streetlighting furniture so often.  Is that a Portuguese thing?

PdL has attracted lots of tourists and amateur sleuths for all the right reasons, if I could get a direct flight to Faro I would join them and do a bit of what the McCanns failed to do...  SEARCH

[pathfinder73]

It happened after Gerry's check?

This photo proves how close to the tampered shutters they were when doing their checks. There's a street light by the car park entrance so checkers would have surely noticed any raised shutters i.e. Matt, Russ or Jane. No draughts = closed window at 9:30.  Any theories that connect cleared patsy to an open window and shutters better reassess their theory.

[Alfred R Jones]

SADIE'S THEORY RE-STATED IN 14 POINTS

@ Sadie  Thank you very much for answering all of my post on your theory, and my questions, so quickly - and also my apologies for having taken too hurried a scan of the other thread so that I got one or two parts of your theory wrong. I had not heard of your theory before ShiningInLuz began the thread.

I have re-stated it in 14 sections, please amend it further if I have still misunderstood any of it.


SADIE'S THEORY - REVISED

1. A bloke was eyeing up Apartment G5A having already decided to abduct Madeleine, probably because she was a pretty, lively and intelligent little girl - and  possibly for her ethnicity and bloodline

2. He had an accomplice waiting in a car in the car parking area opposite reception…probably as close to the gate at the bottom of the garden to block 6, across the road from 5A, as was possible.  A watcher/director of abduction/getaway driver was watching everything from the balcony on block 6, right opposite 5A and he exited to the car park through the building.

3. He didn't abduct Madeleine after seeing Gerry and Kate leave their apartment at about 8.30pm. It happened immediately Gerry left at about 9.15 or so.  The check had just been made and no-one was likely to check for another half hour.  It gave the perpetrator the longest period to get away before discovery. The time also matches the time that Jane saw Tannerman with Madeleine. Matt thinking that the bedroom seemed a bit light from the outside, at about 9.35ish, also adds weight to the time of abduction being just after Gerry left.

4. His plan was changed after seeing Gerry and Jes Wilkins talking in the lane.  The watcher/director of the abduction/getaway driver had expected to drive up the road in a northerly direction to pick up Tannerman and child from the front of 5A.   He drove out, but was immediately confronted by Gerry and Jez, so he had to pass the father of the child. Furthermore he saw Jane witnessing the abductor carrying Madeleine away.  I think he turned tail and shot off in a southerly direction. Tannerman was therefore left in a total quandary.

5. He had an entry key.

6. The abductor and the watcher/director of abduction/getaway driver had already decided on the time to abduct Madeleine and the method of entry.  Anyone old and partially disabled could have achieved that abduction from outside the front door, into bedroom, open window and blind, drug and lift up Madeleine, then out via front door, in less than a minute.   

The watcher could have seen the abductor from the balcony as s/he left the bedroom.  That balcony was wonderfully positioned.  From it everywhere could be seen except - that the watcher could not see the roadway going south towards reception, unless he stretched over the edge of the balcony, which was potentially a dangerous thing to do if anyone saw him. 

From that position, the watcher could also get signals from Tannerman, who i believe was standing outside ready to receive Madeleine from the abductor.

7. He decided to lift up both the windows and the shutters even though he had an entry key, for a number of reasons, some of which were:

i)    As a rapid escape route had Gerry or someone managed to get in unseen via the front door or the patio door.
ii)   As support for the person who was lifting Madeleine [probably a woman] and instruct her as necessary.
iii)  To hand things through to the lifter and take things from her (drugging devices?).
iv)  To add some light to the scene from the rather tree shrouded street lamps, or via a torch held by Tannerman.
v)  To dissipate any scents...Chloroform?, body sweat that dogs might pick up on.
vi)  To throw the family and the police off the scent by making it look as though Madeleine went out of the window, under her own voilition(the ‘red herring’ theory
vii) To try to ensure that the front door wasn't considered during the golden hour or so.
And there are other possible reasons which I may give later.

8. He couldn’t take Madeleine in the getaway car, because the idea had been that the watcher/abduction director/getaway driver was to drive up to the entrance to 5A car park, pick up and drive off complete with Madeleine and Tannerman. But it seems likely that Tannerman was worried sick that he was carrying a stolen child in his arms, and became impatient.  So he walked towards the corner to be confronted by Jane, and, Hells Bells! by Gerry and Jez.  With his pick-up car dithering in the distance beyond Gerry and Jez, he made a snap decision to carry on walking probably thinking that he could circle round via the alleyway to the little car park opposite the Tapas reception - BUT unknown to him the watcher/director/driver had driven off in fear.  Leaving him on his own carrying a stolen child.

9. He might have been ‘Smithman’. The Smiths saw someone, also carrying a child, at 10.00pm. It could well have been the abductor (Tannerman) still carrying his child around Praia da Luz.

10. There is no forensic or circumstantial evidence that Madeleine died.  Scotland Yard have said that the parents are not suspects... nor are the Tapas group

11. There is a list of timed and dated sightings up to Porto and around Porto that are perfectly timed and spaced to have happened in the hours immediately after the abduction.  I have travelled the route and I can verify that the timings for both sections are viable.

12. The girl being carried on a woman’s back in the hemp-growing region of the Rif Mountains, Morocco was NOT Bushra Benita/ Benissa (Jewish name).  It was almost certainly Madeleine McCann. This is because I have a very keen eye for bone structure and shape. Furthermore the little girl in the orange top in the same photo by Ms Torres was very like Joana Cipriano.   

13.  The images of a little girl walking around a bank in Molenbeek St John is also a dead ringer for Madeleine...and she is accompanied by a Moroccan woman.

The very central suburb of Molenbeek St John, in Brussels, is the main port for hemp/kif grown in the Rif Mountains.  Most of the stuff goes to Molenbeek to be processed, changed into hash, cannabis, etc. before being distributed from there all over the world.  Most of the population of Molenbeek is from the Rif Mountains in Morocco.  The little girl walking is wearing an outfit that my suspect might have bought for her.  An expensive Scottish kilt , an Arran-type cream sweater.  The colours of the kilt match the colours of my suspect’s tartan.  This tartan. whilst being shown before on the internet, has now completely vanished.  Wiped.  I wonder why?
It was said that the parents think it, and I think it.  The little girl is almost certainly Madeleine. Quite a big co-incidence about the tartan and it being wiped off the internet, don’t you think?

14. ‘Crecheman’ was not ‘Tannerman’, he was somebody else walking in the same area carrying a blonde child dressed only in white/pink pyjamas – but Scotland Yard seem to think otherwise.

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The above is just about a theory.  A theory that could work very well, but I acknowledge that it may not all be correct. 

ENDS


     

Sadie's theory as summarised by the ever helpful blonk, bumped for the sceptical Faithlilly who believes it is "crazy", so that she can tell us which bits she finds to be crazy. 

[stephen25000]

Sadie's theory as summarised by the ever helpful blonk, bumped for the sceptical Faithlilly who believes it is "crazy", so that she can tell us which bits she finds to be crazy.

Perhaps we shall start with the Illuminati and very important people.

You could always e-mail Dan Brown. %£5&% %£5&%

[ShiningInLuz]

No, I think there is something rather distasteful about people who choose to holiday in the place because of the Madeleine McCann case.  It would literally be the last place on earth I would ever want to take my kids.  I would feel ashamed to do so, quite frankly, but maybe it's just me.

Join the list of people who wish to bash a tourist resort like Luz on the basis that the Madeleine case occurred here.  Therefore Luz should be found guilty, and subject to punishment.

Its tourist business should be shut down.  The proprietors should lose their investment.  Perhaps it would be easier just to bulldoze the place off the face of the earth.

God only knows the media portrays it as a hellhole.  Burglaries to the left, right and centre.  Drugs rampant.  Mental cases abound.  Beware of the rapists.  Absolutely rife with paedos.  Sexual assaults on a regular basis.

The last place on earth to ever take your kids?

[ShiningInLuz]

I'm in total agreement........ I would find it a very sad place to visit and I would be angry if the nastiness we are led to believe exists there against the McCanns was expressed......
There are far better places to holiday than tainted Luz

Seems this in now sorting the posters into a new bag, where McCann supporter is equating to Luz [ censored word ].

Tainted Luz?  That comment is both cheap and nasty.

[faithlilly]

Sadie's theory as summarised by the ever helpful blonk, bumped for the sceptical Faithlilly who believes it is "crazy", so that she can tell us which bits she finds to be crazy.

Shall we start with the bloodline thing followed quickly by Tannerman who SY have ruled out and finish with the Moroccan/Belguim nonsense. Wrap that up with a great big bow of speculation and there you have it ( and you call my theory crazy ssshhhh !! )

[pathfinder73]

9. He might have been ‘Smithman’. The Smiths saw someone, also carrying a child, at 10.00pm. It could well have been the abductor (Tannerman) still carrying his child around Praia da Luz.

No abductor was carrying a child around Luz for 45 minutes. To believe that happened is complete madness. They were heading in different directions. One had long hair, one short. I don't have to explain any further the absurdity of such a claim.

[Alfred R Jones]

Join the list of people who wish to bash a tourist resort like Luz on the basis that the Madeleine case occurred here.  Therefore Luz should be found guilty, and subject to punishment.

Its tourist business should be shut down.  The proprietors should lose their investment.  Perhaps it would be easier just to bulldoze the place off the face of the earth.

God only knows the media portrays it as a hellhole.  Burglaries to the left, right and centre.  Drugs rampant.  Mental cases abound.  Beware of the rapists.  Absolutely rife with paedos.  Sexual assaults on a regular basis.

The last place on earth to ever take your kids?

May I suggest you dial down the hysteria a tad?  I have never suggested any of the OTT things you have ranted about above.  Each to their own, and of course for some people the Madeleine McCann case is a positive raison d'etre to visit PdL - has tourism suffered there as a result?  Perhaps you can supply the evidence for this, it was my understanding that the resort was enjoying something of a renaissance.  It remains my personal view that people who choose to holiday there (or even worse move there to live) simply because it is the place where Madeleine McCann went missing is a bit sick.  Sorry if this offends you but I am exercising my right to an opinion, which I believe I am allowed to do on this forum (up to a point of course...)

[Eleanor]

9. He might have been ‘Smithman’. The Smiths saw someone, also carrying a child, at 10.00pm. It could well have been the abductor (Tannerman) still carrying his child around Praia da Luz.

No abductor was carrying a child around Luz for 45 minutes. To believe that happened is complete madness. They were heading in different directions. One had long hair, one short. I don't have to explain any further the absurdity of such a claim.

I believe it is possible that Madeleine was carried around for 45 minutes, with possibly a rest somewhere in between.  Not at all madness in my opinion.

[Alfred R Jones]

Shall we start with the bloodline thing followed quickly by Tannerman who SY have ruled out and finish with the Moroccan/Belguim nonsense. Wrap that up with a great big bow of speculation and there you have it ( and you call my theory crazy ssshhhh !! )

How about we start with the theory as summarised above, or is that not quite crazy enough for you?