Sadie's theory.

[Eleanor]

Cheap and nasty ?

That is your opinion and not a fact.

Quite frankly, I can't really blame some residents of PDL disliking the mccanns.

True.  It is my opinion.  But then I have stayed in much better places, not very far away.

[Eleanor]

There is, I'm still waiting.

Many abductions are for people being held to ransom.

Quite deliberate and planned.

Criminals yes, but it doesn't make them nutters.

What, like Madeleine's Abduction was planned?  But then all criminals are nutters.

[stephen25000]

What, like Madeleine's Abduction was planned?  But then all criminals are nutters.

As you are more than aware, I don't consider this case to be an abduction.

All criminal are nutters, now that is plainly a ridiculous comment.

[faithlilly]

How about we start with the theory as summarised above, or is that not quite crazy enough for you?

Perhaps you'll show me where I have failed to do that ?

[pathfinder73]

How would who know she's dead?  The father and mother would, presumably, so who else are you referring to?  You think it's perfectly uncrazy to dispose of a body by carrying it uncovered through the streets of a tourist village, bumping into more than half a dozen holiday makers while your other half is screaming that the same child has mysteriously vanished?

The Smiths who saw the child wouldn't know she was dead. A deep sleeping child and a recent deceased child look exactly the same. There's no way you could tell if she was dead.

[Eleanor]

As you are more than aware, I don't consider this case to be an abduction.

All criminal are nutters, now that is plainly a ridiculous comment.

Oh God.  We'll have the bleeding hearts in a minute.  But never mind.  You can always set up a Fund when the abductors are caught.
And don't tell me that's not possible.

[stephen25000]

Oh God.  We'll have the bleeding hearts in a minute.  But never mind.  You can always set up a Fund when the abductors are caught.
And don't tell me that's not possible.

That is not a logical response.

Why should I have 'a bleeding heart' for criminals ?

Please explain.

[Eleanor]

That is not a logical response.

Why should I have 'a bleeding heart' for criminals ?

Please explain.

It's as logical as you are going to get, bearing in mind your illogical comments.  And the mocking of Sadie.  At least she has tried.

[Angelo222]

Abductors usually are nutters.  But perhaps you can come up with some examples of sane ones.

I don't agree Elie.  Child abductions occur for all sorts of reasons including child trafficking.  In Sadie's theory, her abductor isn't a nutter but part of a sophisticated and organised crime syndication.

[stephen25000]

It's as logical as you are going to get, bearing in mind your illogical comments.  And the mocking of Sadie.  At least she has tried.

What on earth are you on about.

So would you call someone who travels 32 mph in a 30 mph zone a criminal and nutter ?

You need to think through your responses.

As to Sadie, I view her theories in the same vein as Hall's ones,  after a brief glimpse at video number 4.

[Angelo222]

There is a contingent in Luz that are actively against The McCanns.  But I wouldn't stay there because it is largely cheap and nasty.

It was a terrible thing to do to what was once a charming fishing village.

You cannot blame an entire community because of the actions of a few.  Luz is no better or no worse than any Iberian resort, in fact I can think of a few I would never want to visit but Luz isn't one of them.  I consider it a charming little town and hope to visit it one of these days.

[Angelo222]

Cheap and nasty ?

That is your opinion and not a fact.

Quite frankly, I can't really blame some residents of PDL disliking the mccanns.

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[Eleanor]

I don't agree Elie.  Child abductions occur for all sorts of reasons including child trafficking.  In Sadie's theory, her abductor isn't a nutter but part of a sophisticated and organised crime syndication.

And you think this isn't nuts?  Crazy?  Insane?  Psychopathic?  Just help yourself to anything that isn't yours?

Your opinion is a lot more suspect than Sadie's.

I don't know much about organised crime syndicates, but if you think they aren't seriously bent then you need to do a reality check.

[Mr Gray]

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I don't blame the residents of Luz who dislike the mccanns...they are gullible fools who have believed a load of lies...and that is not their fault

[Angelo222]

What, like Madeleine's Abduction was planned?  But then all criminals are nutters.

The Oxford Dictionary defines a nutter as someone who is either mad, eccentric or both.  Not your average abductor.

Most abductions are carried out by family members who aren't nutters.