Sadie's theory.

[ShiningInLuz]

I believe Sadie has always gone with the stolen to order theory but there really isn't anything to support it. No child smugglers have ever been identified as operating on the Algarve in 2007 and no reports of suspicious foreign gangs loitering around the Luz area.  The location of Luz too is not ideal for a quick escape to Spain or North Africa, there really only is one main east west corridor, the A22 motorway, and the risk of that being blocked by GNR patrols would have been too great IMO as once you're on it there is no turning back.  Personally I just don't buy it.

Time of Kate's alarm - 10.05pm approx.

Time of GNR arrival at 5A - 11.20pm approx.

Headstart - 1hr 15 mins approx.

Unless of course Madeleine vanished before 10.05pm, in which case the headstart is longer.

[Miss Taken Identity]

@Erngath

Perhaps you would like to keep me on the right path by explaining why Sadies theory has weight i.e any kind of evidence at all. AND should be taken seriously.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Time of Kate's alarm - 10.05pm approx.

Time of GNR arrival at 5A - 11.20pm approx.

Headstart - 1hr 15 mins approx.

Unless of course Madeleine vanished before 10.05pm, in which case the headstart is longer.

   This is always over looked!

[Lace]

@Erngath

Perhaps you would like to keep me on the right path b y explaining why Sadies theory has weight i.e any kind of evidence at all. AND should be taken seriously.

I think Sadies theory is very well thought out.


There is evidence,  well there was,  the cigarette ends that the Police did not collect.   Also there is evidence that there were men watching the area.  The charity collectors collecting for a charity that didn't exist.   A charity collector even went into an apartment,  one witness said she found him staring at her child.

It is very easy to laugh and poke fun at someone's theory but there are not many who will actually come forward and say what their theories are.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I think Sadies theory is very well thought out.


There is evidence,  well there was,  the cigarette ends that the Police did not collect.   Also there is evidence that there were men watching the area.  The charity collectors collecting for a charity that didn't exist.   A charity collector even went into an apartment,  one witness said she found him staring at her child.

It is very easy to laugh and poke fun at someone's theory but there are not many who will actually come forward and say what their theories are.

  That is evidence?

Were these abductors 'Jewish looking' were they wearing star of David perchance or even Templar robes as they went about their  dirty deeds.

I don't have a theory simply because I wasn't there, and can't get to ask questions of those who were.

[Lace]

That is evidence?

Were these abductors 'Jewish looking' were they wearing star of David perchance or even Templar robes as they went about their  dirty deeds.

I don't have a theory simply because I wasn't there, and can't get to ask questions of those who were.

You havent got a theory because you can't work one out can you?


Remember Amaral wasn't there either.

[Miss Taken Identity]

You haven't got a theory because you can't work one out can you?


Remember Amaral wasn't there either.

Yes I said that part quite clearly. I do not have a theory because I wasn't there!
 

[Brietta]

Time of Kate's alarm - 10.05pm approx.

Time of GNR arrival at 5A - 11.20pm approx.

Headstart - 1hr 15 mins approx.

Unless of course Madeleine vanished before 10.05pm, in which case the headstart is longer.

I'm not sure where you are going with this. The alarm was raised around 10.00pm.  How would it have been possible for her not to have vanished prior to that?

[Brietta]

Off topic posts will be removed.

[Miss Taken Identity]

The open window/abductor  story is from Kate McCann on discovering her daughter allegedly being abducted. This is a very important part of the case of missing MBM.

I know  supporters don't like it when the parents stories are challenged, but you see this is a debating forum. I am well over the window story- I laughed at the idea of it  way back in the day. 

[Lace]

The open window/abductor  story is from Kate McCann on discovering her daughter allegedly being abducted. This is a very important part of the case of missing MBM.

I know  supporters don't like it when the parents stories are challenged, but you see this is a debating forum. I am well over the window story- I laughed at the idea of it  way back in the day. 

Distraught parents finding a window open in their child's bedroom and their child missing.   Anyone would have jumped to the conclusion that an alleged abductor had come through the window.


You mocked at the idea that men had been watching 5a,  when the Police were interested in the fact that the apartment had been watched IMO.   

Madeleine was nearly four when she went missing on 3 May 2007 from the ground-floor holiday apartment in the Ocean Complex while her parents dined with friends at a nearby restaurant. Redwood believes the child may have been abducted in an organised, planned operation by a group of individuals who might have checked out the layout of the resort in the days before. Redwood said one reading of the evidence was that it was a kidnapping which had "all the hallmarks of a pre-planned abduction that would have undoubtedly involved reconnaissance".

You say you want justice for Madeleine, the only way to have justice for Madeleine is to find the alleged person/s who snatched her IMO.

[G-Unit]

Distraught parents finding a window open in their child's bedroom and their child missing.   Anyone would have jumped to the conclusion that an alleged abductor had come through the window.


You mocked at the idea that men had been watching 5a,  when the Police were interested in the fact that the apartment had been watched IMO.   

Madeleine was nearly four when she went missing on 3 May 2007 from the ground-floor holiday apartment in the Ocean Complex while her parents dined with friends at a nearby restaurant. Redwood believes the child may have been abducted in an organised, planned operation by a group of individuals who might have checked out the layout of the resort in the days before. Redwood said one reading of the evidence was that it was a kidnapping which had "all the hallmarks of a pre-planned abduction that would have undoubtedly involved reconnaissance".

You say you want justice for Madeleine, the only way to have justice for Madeleine is to find the alleged person/s who snatched her IMO.

All based on a belief that Madeleine McCann was abducted. Selectively quoting Redwood works both ways;

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine was abducted "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

When a child disappears and the evidence is inconclusive all possibilities should be considered.

[Vertigo Swirl]

All based on a belief that Madeleine McCann was abducted. Selectively quoting Redwood works both ways;

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine was abducted "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

When a child disappears and the evidence is inconclusive all possibilities should be considered.

Let’s have the full quote shall we?

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine was abducted "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.

"These offences are very serious and no one has been charged in connection with them. We also need to eliminate this man from our inquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine's disappearance," he said.

"If you have been a victim of a similar crime please come forward even if you reported the incident to police in Portugal, or anywhere else, please do not assume we have been made aware of it."

There was also a "very close resonance" to some features of Madeleine's disappearance, said Redwood.

The above appearing under the following headline:

Madeleine McCann police seek intruder who attacked girls at holiday homes
Detectives investigating girl's disappearance look for dark-haired man who sexually abused five girls in Algarve

[G-Unit]

Let’s have the full quote shall we?

Redwood said the assumption that Madeleine was abducted "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case.

"These offences are very serious and no one has been charged in connection with them. We also need to eliminate this man from our inquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine's disappearance," he said.

"If you have been a victim of a similar crime please come forward even if you reported the incident to police in Portugal, or anywhere else, please do not assume we have been made aware of it."

There was also a "very close resonance" to some features of Madeleine's disappearance, said Redwood.

The above appearing under the following headline:

Madeleine McCann police seek intruder who attacked girls at holiday homes
Detectives investigating girl's disappearance look for dark-haired man who sexually abused five girls in Algarve

My quote (with a cite) was in reply to a previous selective quote (without a cite). I don't really have much interest in what Redwood said, to be honest. It's others who cling to his words in order to support their belief in the unproven  abduction theory in my opinion.

[slartibartfast]

My quote (with a cite) was in reply to a previous selective quote (without a cite). I don't really have much interest in what Redwood said, to be honest. It's others who cling to his words in order to support their belief in the unproven  abduction theory in my opinion.

Nearly 5 years ago...