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Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1440 on: August 06, 2016, 07:03:38 PM »
Sadie the sighting of G by NB and RB is written in the files by a British analyst who saw both statements:

"... NB and RM ... heard him calling for Madeleine when they were sitting on N's balcony ... They both went down to talk to G ..."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRIGADE-OF-INFORMATION.htm 

Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1441 on: August 06, 2016, 07:10:27 PM »
"... was contacted by a member of staff from the Tapas Restaurant ... who informed him that the daughter of some guests who were dining there had disappeared ... he immediately contacted the GNR ..."
In this receptionist statement it is easily deduced that it means an employee who happened to be in the area of the restaurant when he phoned reception, not an employee who works at the restaurant. The resort manager, not the T9, deserves full credit for insisting that the GNR were called.
Soz Pegasus, but I dont know how you deduce that from the statement.  I read the opposite to you.  I think it was a waiter IIRC.

The resort manager carries clout.  The tapas group obviously did not, they could INSIST nothing.

Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1442 on: August 06, 2016, 07:15:13 PM »
Sadie the sighting of G by NB and RB is written in the files by a British analyst who saw both statements:

"... NB and RM ... heard him calling for Madeleine when they were sitting on N's balcony ... They both went down to talk to G ..."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BRIGADE-OF-INFORMATION.htm

Excellent.  Thank you Pegasus.  I hope that Pathfinder is reading this.

But I still cannot understand why the statements of NB and RB  (and Carolyn C) were not published as the others were.

it would have taken such a load of upset off Kate and Gerrys shoulders.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1443 on: August 06, 2016, 08:29:39 PM »
I know about it Sadie. If Balu/Berry used a paper in the searches then this was after 10:20 NOT 10pm.

"The men's movements, however, are more difficult to pinpoint." from the report!

"At about 22.17 I received a call from Lyndsey Johnson, the creche Manager, informing me that the girl had gone missing."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EMMA-LOUISE.htm
Occupation: Hotel Manager
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 08:36:22 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1444 on: August 06, 2016, 08:43:40 PM »
I know about it Sadie. If Balu/Berry used a paper in the searches then this was after 10:20 NOT 10pm.

"The men's movements, however, are more difficult to pinpoint." from the report!

"At about 22.17 I received a call from Lyndsey Johnson, the creche Manager, informing me that the girl had gone missing."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EMMA-LOUISE.htm
Occupation: Hotel Manager
So what?  That means nothing Pathfinder.  Think about it.

They could have been passed the paper at any time during the search.   IMO the tendency would be to search in one direction, then return to a set point which I imagine would be 5A but equally well could have been the main reception .. or Tapas bar ... or ....?  At any stage the paper could have been given out.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1445 on: August 06, 2016, 09:20:55 PM »
The OC missing child procedure didn't start till way past 10pm. Smithman had done his deed before Balu/Berry were on the searching scene.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 09:23:34 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1446 on: August 06, 2016, 09:24:19 PM »
Soz Pegasus, but I dont know how you deduce that from the statement.  I read the opposite to you.  I think it was a waiter IIRC.

The resort manager carries clout.  The tapas group obviously did not, they could INSIST nothing.
They seemed capable of insisting on a discount on the holiday Sadie, and insisting on a tapas block booking.

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1447 on: August 06, 2016, 09:30:15 PM »
Soz Pegasus, but I dont know how you deduce that from the statement.  I read the opposite to you.  I think it was a waiter IIRC ....(snip)
The phone records identify which employee phoned HL and told him to phone the police Sadie.

Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1448 on: August 06, 2016, 09:41:34 PM »
They seemed capable of insisting on a discount on the holiday Sadie, and insisting on a tapas block booking.
At the first stage they were in an advantageous position.  Buying accomodation that was half empty.  By the second stage, any sensible O.C. person could see that with little ones (especially three of them) and late at night, it was nigh impossible to walk up to the Millenium restaurant   My bet is that out of season as this was, the tapas restaurant was only half full as well.  No skin off their noses to allow a tapas block booking.


When we ate there in 2010, I think it was in June, and the place was only about a quarter full, if that.

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1449 on: August 06, 2016, 09:53:17 PM »
(snip) ... My bet is that out of season as this was, the tapas restaurant was only half full as well.  No skin off their noses to allow a tapas block booking ... (snip)
Actually it was very popular and people would go at 9am in hope of booking a table for the evening. And due to the block booking, people were turned away - as described in several tourist statements and also in a very well written and informative book Sadie which I recommend you read..

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1450 on: August 06, 2016, 10:19:21 PM »
The phone records identify which employee phoned HL and told him to phone the police Sadie.
You can get that out of a number? 
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Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1451 on: August 06, 2016, 10:44:23 PM »
You can get that out of a number?
The number and the time (22.38 = just before police were phoned) and the receptionist statement (he phoned police because he had just received a call instructing him to phone police) Robbity.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1452 on: August 06, 2016, 11:07:39 PM »
The number and the time (22.38 = just before police were phoned) and the receptionist statement (he phoned police because he had just received a call instructing him to phone police) Robbity.
That is right, you need more than that number but then how can you be sure they were even referring to that occasion in that statement.  I think this is an error of assessment.  We got an incident mentioned in a statement and a phone number but no proof they relate to each other.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1453 on: August 07, 2016, 02:45:32 AM »
That is right, you need more than that number but then how can you be sure they were even referring to that occasion in that statement.  I think this is an error of assessment.  We got an incident mentioned in a statement and a phone number but no proof they relate to each other.
IMO the 22:38 phonecall was obviously the phonecall instructing receptionist to phone police.
What do you think the 22:38 call was about Robbity?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1454 on: August 07, 2016, 03:00:11 AM »
IMO the 22:38 phonecall was obviously the phonecall instructing receptionist to phone police.
What do you think the 22:38 call was about Robbity?
So what number is calling what number and where is this recorded?  Link please?
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