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Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #690 on: March 09, 2016, 11:36:12 PM »
So your view is that a witness identifying someone with a high degree of certainty is worthless.

Redwood liked the irish family's sighting enough to publicise it, so he obviously didn't agree with davel.
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #691 on: March 09, 2016, 11:40:10 PM »
So your view is that a witness identifying someone with a high degree of certainty is worthless.
Since when has 60-80% EVER been considered "a high degree of certainty"?!

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #692 on: March 10, 2016, 12:54:45 AM »
Redwood liked the irish family's sighting enough to publicise it, so he obviously didn't agree with davel.

Or the Mccanns who only paid lip service to it on one or two occasions ver 9 years

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #693 on: March 10, 2016, 01:00:22 AM »
Redwood liked the irish family's sighting enough to publicise it, so he obviously didn't agree with davel.
I don't remember Davel ever disputing that the motionless child the Irish group saw was possibly the missing child?

Offline sadie

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #694 on: March 10, 2016, 09:11:15 AM »
Lots of men have the same stature as Gerry McCann but it was his name which was mentioned. The only person confused is you. Martin Smith was quite clear about his opinion and why he held it. Mannerisms, not stature. 'Like an action replay' of his sighting.

The whole Smith TV thingy was not about WHO the man was, but the way the man carried the little girl ... and it happened to be Gerry who carried his little son in a similar manner that triggered the memory.  Could have been anyone. 

Leading questions would have been asked, probably twisting the scenario in Mr Smiths mind.  We have all witnessed twisting techniques used on here!   My bet is that a fair bit of pressure was put on Smith by Amaral to get that 60-80% figure


BTW,
Gerry is NOT 5'9 - 5'11" tall.  He is a damned sight taller.  I have stood right next to him, talking to him.  I remember him as being well over 6ft tall. 

? 6'1"

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #695 on: March 10, 2016, 09:20:58 AM »
Does Clarence play basketball Sadie?  Gerry is definitely the shortest here and looks under 6ft.

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #696 on: March 10, 2016, 09:26:15 AM »
The whole Smith TV thingy was not about WHO the man was, but the way the man carried the little girl ... and it happened to be Gerry who carried his little son in a similar manner that triggered the memory.  Could have been anyone. 

Leading questions would have been asked, probably twisting the scenario in Mr Smiths mind.  We have all witnessed twisting techniques used on here!   My bet is that a fair bit of pressure was put on Smith by Amaral to get that 60-80% figure


BTW,
Gerry is NOT 5'9 - 5'11" tall.  He is a damned sight taller.  I have stood right next to him, talking to him.  I remember him as being well over 6ft tall. 

? 6'1"

Last time you mentioned this Sadie , you mentioned 6' 2''.

Is he shrinking or just coming up short  @)(++(*

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #697 on: March 10, 2016, 09:33:58 AM »
The whole Smith TV thingy was not about WHO the man was, but the way the man carried the little girl ... and it happened to be Gerry who carried his little son in a similar manner that triggered the memory.  Could have been anyone. 

Leading questions would have been asked, probably twisting the scenario in Mr Smiths mind.  We have all witnessed twisting techniques used on here!   My bet is that a fair bit of pressure was put on Smith by Amaral to get that 60-80% figure


BTW,
Gerry is NOT 5'9 - 5'11" tall.  He is a damned sight taller.  I have stood right next to him, talking to him.  I remember him as being well over 6ft tall. 

? 6'1"

I thought Amaral was long gone by the time Mr Smith gave his 60-80% statement.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #698 on: March 10, 2016, 09:48:33 AM »
I thought Amaral was long gone by the time Mr Smith gave his 60-80% statement.

Yes Amaral was gone. MS made his statement 60-80% on 23 January 2008. Amaral left the case on 2 October 2007.

From Lindsay Long to John Hughes

20th September 2007

Is asking a member of OP task ring him back. He was with group of 9 family and friends the night he saw the male in Portugal. He sounded quite worried and shaken whilst speaking to me.

Lindsay Long - Braunstone Police Station
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #699 on: March 10, 2016, 10:34:45 AM »
Last time you mentioned this Sadie , you mentioned 6' 2''.

Is he shrinking or just coming up short  @)(++(*

Maybe sometimes wears high heels  8(0(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #700 on: March 10, 2016, 10:38:58 AM »
So your view is that a witness identifying someone with a high degree of certainty is worthless.

he didn't see his face...would you call 60% a high degree of certainty.....he isn't sure,...that is not a high degree of certainty

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #701 on: March 10, 2016, 10:45:39 AM »
Redwood liked the irish family's sighting enough to publicise it, so he obviously didn't agree with davel.

Rewdwood didn't think it was Gerry

Offline jassi

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #702 on: March 10, 2016, 10:52:54 AM »
That doesn't make the  Smith sighting any less important.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline sadie

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #703 on: March 10, 2016, 10:53:26 AM »
Last time you mentioned this Sadie , you mentioned 6' 2''.

Is he shrinking or just coming up short  @)(++(*
from memory, I would have an educated guess at over 6' 1" ... so 6'2" fits the bill ... cos it is just an educated guess.

Shall we say, 6' 1 - 6'2 ?  imo

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #704 on: March 10, 2016, 10:59:14 AM »
That doesn't make the  Smith sighting any less important.

I didn't say it wasn't ...his opinion that it was Gerry isnt