Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 292067 times)

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ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #675 on: March 09, 2016, 08:57:01 PM »
Neither are facts, and your post is quite unfathomable. August 2008 was neither "way after public release of the files" ...it was the same month ..... And her being quoted in a newspaper in the same month /year is not "very recently" unless you think 8 years ago  is a very recent time...is there any point in expecting you not to embroider? the facts in this case and call your embroidering "facts"?

By all means make your case, but make sure its truthful!!

Eta GU beat me to it

Hyperbole does not for an untruthful case make.

After release of the files (remains true).

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #676 on: March 09, 2016, 09:01:56 PM »
Hyperbole does not for an untruthful case make.

After release of the files (remains true).

If you have truth why the constant and gargantuan use of hyperbole, sprinkled with libellous speculation on other occasions, plus a refusal to accept facts given to you on other occasions, it is not required, in fact it weakens your case ....so I rest mine

ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #677 on: March 09, 2016, 09:04:42 PM »
Use of hyperbole (to accentuate valid points) is an acceptable writing style, I would argue.

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #678 on: March 09, 2016, 09:14:21 PM »
Use of hyperbole (to accentuate valid points) is an acceptable writing style, I would argue.

Go argue ahead, you must hold the record for extreme use of said hyperbole...i cant thnk of a single person who calls 8 years "very recently" , and i personally would class your use of the facts as distorted on purpose (as you seem to actually know the real undistorted elements of the facts) ...take your pick


ferryman

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #679 on: March 09, 2016, 09:29:30 PM »
Go argue ahead, you must hold the record for extreme use of said hyperbole...i cant thnk of a single person who calls 8 years "very recently" , and i personally would class your use of the facts as distorted on purpose (as you seem to actually know the real undistorted elements of the facts) ...take your pick

"The poor McCann family must be heartbroken.''


Would you not agree that these are very odd words for Mary Smith to have uttered if she thought Kate and Gerry to be culpable? 

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #680 on: March 09, 2016, 09:31:20 PM »
Hyperbole does not for an untruthful case make.

After release of the files (remains true).

Hyperboles are comparisons, like similes and metaphors, but are extravagant and even ridiculous
Read more at http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-hyperboles.html#YTPpfyhPhQlcAd7W.99
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #681 on: March 09, 2016, 09:35:59 PM »
Do you dispute that after release the files Mrs Smith is on record as expressing sympathy with the McCanns?

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #682 on: March 09, 2016, 09:41:33 PM »
"The poor McCann family must be heartbroken.''


Would you not agree that these are very odd words for Mary Smith to have uttered if she thought Kate and Gerry to be culpable?

No

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #683 on: March 09, 2016, 09:51:49 PM »
Do you dispute that after release the files Mrs Smith is on record as expressing sympathy with the McCanns?

She also said in the same quote that the man they saw had the same stature as Gerry McCann. Perhaps in answer to the reporter asking her why her husband said he was 60-80% certain the man was Gerry McCann.
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #684 on: March 09, 2016, 09:57:54 PM »
She also said in the same quote that the man they saw had the same stature as Gerry McCann. Perhaps in answer to the reporter asking her why her husband said he was 60-80% certain the man was Gerry McCann.

Madeleine's abductor had the same stature as Gerry.

Lots of men do.

Almost certainly the cause of the confusion.

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #685 on: March 09, 2016, 10:04:14 PM »
Madeleine's abductor had the same stature as Gerry.

Lots of men do.

Almost certainly the cause of the confusion.

Lots of men have the same stature as Gerry McCann but it was his name which was mentioned. The only person confused is you. Martin Smith was quite clear about his opinion and why he held it. Mannerisms, not stature. 'Like an action replay' of his sighting.
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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #686 on: March 09, 2016, 10:24:34 PM »
Lots of men have the same stature as Gerry McCann but it was his name which was mentioned. The only person confused is you. Martin Smith was quite clear about his opinion and why he held it. Mannerisms, not stature. 'Like an action replay' of his sighting.


Smith can think what he likes ...it is of no importance,,,as evidence his opinion is worthless

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #687 on: March 09, 2016, 10:47:38 PM »
Madeleine's abductor had the same stature as Gerry.

Lots of men do.

Almost certainly the cause of the confusion.

 ... and confusion it most certainly was ... "Although I could not describe the male I'd seen in Portugal because he had his back to me, it was the particular way Mr. McCann held the child that made me think. He held the child over his left shoulder with his left arm supporting the child?s weight." R.McCluskey  12th September 2007
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RI_Mc.htm
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #688 on: March 09, 2016, 11:11:22 PM »
The climate of the time contributed to the mistaken identification of Madeleine's father on two separate occasions as two different men (Mr McCluskey's man was identified by the PJ).

The fact that Madeleine's parents had been made arguidos on September 7 probably had everything to do with it and made what had been unthinkable thinkable.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #689 on: March 09, 2016, 11:32:27 PM »

Smith can think what he likes ...it is of no importance,,,as evidence his opinion is worthless

So your view is that a witness identifying someone with a high degree of certainty is worthless.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.