Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 292144 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #375 on: March 03, 2016, 08:55:13 PM »
Have done so.

Ad nauseam.

Your turn.

Ad nauseam  yes.

Logically explained, NO.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #376 on: March 03, 2016, 09:19:20 PM »
Ad nauseam  yes.

Logically explained, NO.

Oh well, it kept us amused for a while. It's clear the McCanns just didn't want to publicise the e-fits. It's also clear that Mr Smith didn't change his mind. Saying he did is just guesswork.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #377 on: March 03, 2016, 09:41:24 PM »
Oh well, it kept us amused for a while. It's clear the McCanns just didn't want to publicise the e-fits. It's also clear that Mr Smith didn't change his mind. Saying he did is just guesswork.
All of Ferryman's conditions are now satisfied (there is an active UK police investigation, which approves publicising the 2 efits). And if you look at the official fund site do you not see the 2 efits prominently displayed on the front page?
« Last Edit: March 03, 2016, 09:49:25 PM by pegasus »

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #378 on: March 03, 2016, 09:56:37 PM »
All of Ferryman's conditions are now satisfied (there is an active UK police investigation, which approves publicising the 2 efits). And if you look at the official fund site do you not see the 2 efits prominently displayed on the front page?

If only we all had the same visual abilities as the Smith family.................

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #379 on: March 03, 2016, 10:07:57 PM »
Oh well, it kept us amused for a while. It's clear the McCanns just didn't want to publicise the e-fits. It's also clear that Mr Smith didn't change his mind. Saying he did is just guesswork.
guesswork supported by the fact that he has been reported as having changed his mind by various newspapers, with no word subsequently from Smith contradicting the reports.

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #380 on: March 03, 2016, 10:25:33 PM »
Here's a challenge
Find the 2 smithman efits on the portuguese pages of the MF site.


Offline Benice

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #381 on: March 04, 2016, 12:51:23 AM »
guesswork supported by the fact that he has been reported as having changed his mind by various newspapers, with no word subsequently from Smith contradicting the reports.

How true.   Mr Smith's practice to threaten legal action against newspapers who misrepresented him is a proven fact  - and the evidence to show that to be true has been posted here before.    But not a word from him on this occasion even though the statement made in the Sunday Times was huge as it claimed Mr Smith no longer believed it was Gerry he saw.

Add to that the following comments from Mrs Smith and it's clear (to anyone who isn't completely blinkered)  that the Smiths do not believe that Gerry McCann was complicit in the disappearance of his daughter.

Quote
We only did what we thought was right for a missing girl and our hearts are breaking for her parents, as it would be if it were one of ours.

''I feel very much for them [the McCanns]. I have six grandchildren of my own and six children of my own.

"The poor McCann family must be heartbroken.''
End quote

Anyone who can read that and still claim that it's clear that Martin Smith did not change his mind is suspending all common sense and logic and is  taking 'wishful thinking' to a whole new level IMO.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Benice

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #382 on: March 04, 2016, 01:29:36 AM »
  OK - so which of the above do you think pertain to this case then?  Two doctors from Rothley lose a child on holiday, the UK Establishment goes to huge lengths to cover up the real reason for the disappearance because of:
a) Greed
b) money
c) sexual favours
d) drugs
e) power
f) perks
g) swifter promotion prospects
h) better pension deal.

Judging  by the massive conspiracy which has taken place according to some - surely the McCanns must be secretly ruling the country - if not the whole world?

Too barmy for words imo.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #383 on: March 04, 2016, 01:30:29 AM »
Here's a challenge
Find the 2 smithman efits on the portuguese pages of the MF site.

if Ferryman is correct and the only thng stopping them publicising the efits since 2008 was that there was no official "live" police investigation, then why did they not publicise them in any meaningful form after Crimewatch 2013.....I see now the two efits are included at last i
(How many months or years after Crimewatch was this?) in the persons of interest page "Important, Who are these People"(uk version only) within a batch of efits from the files, not differentiated in any way, and not referenced as Smithman or by time and place but Tannerman, Spottyman and Aussiewoman have their own special sections

In the three foreign versions of their site Smithman is absent from that particular page (though in the main front page mentions "crimewatch"...?? I havent looked through it all to find him hidden away anywhere else.

All very higgledy-piggledy IMO
« Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 01:51:31 AM by mercury »

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #384 on: March 04, 2016, 01:34:31 AM »
This challenge is easy.
Which of these 5 efits are on the official search website's home page?
Smithman efit1, Smithman efit2, BarcelonaChildSellerWoman, VerySpottyMan, RuledOutBySYCrecheMan.



« Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 01:42:06 AM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #385 on: March 04, 2016, 01:38:59 AM »
This challenge is easy.
Which of these 5 efits are on the official search website's home page?
Smithman efit1, Smithman efit2, BarcelonaChildSellerWoman, VerySpottyMan, RuledOutBySYCrecheMan.

Last three retain primacy...I'll take the coconut and in the meantme await the logical explanations from the apologists

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #386 on: March 04, 2016, 01:42:12 AM »
How true.  Mr Smith's practice to threaten legal action against newspapers who misrepresented him is a proven fact  - and the evidence to show that to be true has been posted here before.    But not a word from him on this occasion even though the statement made in the Sunday Times was huge as it claimed Mr Smith no longer believed it was Gerry he saw

Add to that the following comments from Mrs Smith and it's clear (to anyone who isn't completely blinkered)  that the Smiths do not believe that Gerry McCann was complicit in the disappearance of his daughter.

Quote
We only did what we thought was right for a missing girl and our hearts are breaking for her parents, as it would be if it were one of ours.

''I feel very much for them [the McCanns]. I have six grandchildren of my own and six children of my own.

"The poor McCann family must be heartbroken.''
End quote

Anyone who can read that and still claim that it's clear that Martin Smith did not change his mind is suspending all common sense and logic and is  taking 'wishful thinking' to a whole new level IMO.

Perhaps he did not want to get dragged into all the crap again...after all he has a life......

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #387 on: March 04, 2016, 01:51:50 AM »
Last three retain primacy...I'll take the coconut and in the meantme await the logical explanations from the apologists
Yes you correctly identified the 3 efits on the home page of the official search site Merc.
I posted your coconut by airmail.
Next challenge - is there any poster here who will stand up and say they believe that barcelonachildvendorwoman (featured on that home page) is of any relevance to this case?
« Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 01:58:30 AM by pegasus »

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #388 on: March 04, 2016, 01:57:16 AM »
Last three retain primacy...I'll take the coconut and in the meantme await the logical explanations from the apologists

SY & the PJ are not pursuing Smithman as a significant line of inquiry IMO.

Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #389 on: March 04, 2016, 02:00:07 AM »
SY & the PJ are not pursuing Smithman as a significant line of inquiry IMO.

If that is true doesnt the same apply to all the other three? mentioned? Especially the highly tenuous if not ridiculous aussiewoman "overheard conversation" which the really concerned witness kept under his belt for two years!

Ps SY appealed for info on smithman NOT aussiewoman or tannerman
« Last Edit: March 04, 2016, 02:02:13 AM by mercury »