Author Topic: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?  (Read 292118 times)

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1215 on: April 02, 2016, 12:08:42 PM »
We have her husband's statement about what she told him she heard. I would say we have a  more reliable basis for  judging what Mrs Carpenter heard than we have for suggesting that Martin Smith changed his mind.

Hearsay.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1216 on: April 02, 2016, 12:59:02 PM »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1217 on: April 02, 2016, 01:31:46 PM »
We have her husband's statement about what she told him she heard. I would say we have a  more reliable basis for  judging what Mrs Carpenter heard than we have for suggesting that Martin Smith changed his mind.

Seeing as it's pretty much rock-solid that Martin Smith has changed his mind, perhaps you should exchange your bases-receptors? 

Offline Eleanor

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1218 on: April 02, 2016, 01:33:47 PM »
Direct witness testimony.

He said his wife said.  This is Hearsay.

Offline pegasus

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1219 on: April 02, 2016, 01:41:54 PM »
He said his wife said.  This is Hearsay.
It may be legally defined as hearsay, but it is very probably correct, that his wife on their way home heard someone shouting the girl's name. Does he remember the time they walked home as about 21:30?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1220 on: April 02, 2016, 01:51:39 PM »
It may be legally defined as hearsay, but it is very probably correct, that his wife on their way home heard someone shouting the girl's name. Does he remember the time they walked home as about 21:30?

But she would have to say that herself.  No Court would accept his word.  She might even have a different time concept under rightful questioning.  Like, was she wearing her hearing aid at the time?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1221 on: April 02, 2016, 01:53:42 PM »
He said his wife said.  This is Hearsay.

I doubt he would have mentioned it if she hadn't said it, so it's likely to be in her statement.

There are now (since 2003) provisions for allowing hearsay evidence in court.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1222 on: April 02, 2016, 02:15:08 PM »
I doubt he would have mentioned it if she hadn't said it, so it's likely to be in her statement.

There are now (since 2003) provisions for allowing hearsay evidence in court.

Oh, Great.  So anyone cans say what someone else said.  God help the Justice System.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1223 on: April 02, 2016, 11:17:27 PM »
He said his wife said.  This is Hearsay.

Gerry claimed Kate told him the window and shutters were open when she arrived. Is that statement to be treated with suspicion too ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1224 on: April 02, 2016, 11:45:46 PM »
Gerry claimed Kate told him the window and shutters were open when she arrived. Is that statement to be treated with suspicion too ?

He witnessed it.

We also have heard a first hand account of the situation from the person who experienced it.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1225 on: April 02, 2016, 11:55:38 PM »
He witnessed it.

We also have heard a first hand account of the situation from the person who experienced it.

He wasn't there when she arrived at the apartment. As far as he knew she could have opened them herself.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1226 on: April 03, 2016, 12:10:53 AM »
He wasn't there when she arrived at the apartment. As far as he knew she could have opened them herself.

Are you questioning the truthfulness of what Kate said or whether she actually said it?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1227 on: April 03, 2016, 12:30:56 AM »
Are you questioning the truthfulness of what Kate said or whether she actually said it?

I'm doing neither. I'm simply pointing out that Gerry's statement is hearsay.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1228 on: April 03, 2016, 12:44:34 AM »
I'm doing neither. I'm simply pointing out that Gerry's statement is hearsay.

But that hearsay is confirmed by KM's own statement. It is not GM's statement which should be deemed suspicious.
 



Offline mercury

Re: Has Martin Smith Changed his Opinion ?
« Reply #1229 on: April 03, 2016, 12:52:03 AM »
there is no reason to assume that the mccanns statemets or their book is true