Slarti's Simple Solution.

[Miss Taken Identity]

You mean you were conversing with common-or-garden type burglars?  Surely that was beneath a man of your calibre!

Or mibeez Alice is a embracing diversity and has no class distinction issues AKA 'snobbery'. let's check this out. Alice do you have a preference as to what class your burglars hail from, would you be more upset if they were council tenant burglars or top class diamond thieves from Kensington DAHLNG?

Thinking along the lines of an opportune abduction there would be no need to case a joint-just jump in and grab the chance or child as the case is being presented here.

IF some one was casing the joint for reasons other than checking the leaky drainpipe or gutter overflow on the property, then one would assume he/she/they are not in the big league of abductors because any real live reconesons for such an activity would be done incognito ie not looking suspicious at all!  blending in meh.

I still am not convinced the window of opportunity was as narrow as is being claimed  by the Tapas 9.

[mercury]

Free publicity for their handler.

Precious little else.

What handler? Do you know his name? For all the free publicity, never heard of him....hmmmm lol

[Carana]

Obviously there is nothing entitled "The Burglary Manual of Tactics" but try looking in here to get a feel of what they do and don't do.

http://simplisafe.com/blog/burglar-reveals-15-trade-secrets-look-mind-burglar
http://www.rd.com/home/improvement/burglar-secrets/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/crimewatchroadshow/safety/burglars_favourites.shtml
http://www.ncssalarm.com/ten-things-clever-burglars-dont-want-you-to-know-they-do/
http://robertsiciliano.com/blog/2014/01/30/10-more-things-burglars-dont-want-you-to-know/

"A person casing your neighborhood for break-ins looks like the guy who would never do such a thing: clean-cut, maybe dressed in a workman’s uniform with a fake logo, carrying inspection equipment to make himself look legit".

There is plenty more where that came from.

Thanks.

Burglars can come in all shapes and sizes, though.

[Alice Purjorick]

Thanks.

Burglars can come in all shapes and sizes, though.

I think that is self evident but if you feel you are more competent to comment than the links I have posted so be it.
The interesting parts for me were:
87% get away with it which means either they are good at it or the cops are crap at solving burglaries.
Most make themselves unobtrusive, melt into the background and don't draw attention to themselves when casing a job.
They rarely enter kids rooms.
Blow out "burglary gone wrong" on balance.

[mercury]

Or mibeez Alice is a embracing diversity and has no class distinction issues AKA 'snobbery'. let's check this out. Alice do you have a preference as to what class your burglars hail from, would you be more upset if they were council tenant burglars or top class diamond thieves from Kensington DAHLNG?

Thinking along the lines of an opportune abduction there would be no need to case a joint-just jump in and grab the chance or child as the case is being presented here.

IF some one was casing the joint for reasons other than checking the leaky drainpipe or gutter overflow on the property, then one would assume he/she/they are not in the big league of abductors because any real live reconesons for such an activity would be done incognito ie not looking suspicious at all!  blending in meh.

I still am not convinced the window of opportunity was as narrow as is being claimed  by the Tapas 9.

Good post

As for burglary "gone wrong" aka "I've gone in to steal money and goods" but suddenly had an idea I would abduct a toddler sleeping in there....positively BARMY at best

I'm sure some clever sod might come up with a link where this has happened...I want a big plasma telly but a kid might do.......free to do so

[Alfred R Jones]

I think that is self evident but if you feel you are more competent to comment than the links I have posted so be it.
The interesting parts for me were:
87% get away with it which means either they are good at it or the cops are crap at solving burglaries.
Most make themselves unobtrusive, melt into the background and don't draw attention to themselves when casing a job.
They rarely enter kids rooms.
Blow out "burglary gone wrong" on balance.

or that police are so overwhelmed by the number of burglaries reported on a daily basis that there are simply not the resources in place to investigate each one thoroughly, leading to arrests and charges being brought.

[Alice Purjorick]

Can someone tell me: are these two videos supposed to show the same shutter ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzpniKAWvUI
https://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/the-shutters/

[Carana]

Good post

As for burglary "gone wrong" aka "I've gone in to steal money and goods" but suddenly had an idea I would abduct a toddler sleeping in there....positively BARMY at best

What about the little girl taken from her bath? He was known for burglary or other crimes, but just went in and grabbed her from her bath.

I haven't heard any more about the little girl apparently taken from her (first floor) bedroom by some nutter who decided to climb up, wrap her in her bedsheet and chuck her out of the first-floor balcony door (left open due to the summer heatwave). She was carried off, but managed to scream and was found in a neighbour's garden. Unless the story has entirely changed since then.

[Carana]

Can someone tell me: are these two videos supposed to show the same shutter ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzpniKAWvUI
https://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/the-shutters/

As far as I know, the first one was a different apartment, but you'd have to check with Heri.

The second one with PeterMac is 5A.

[mercury]

What about the little girl taken from her bath? He was known for burglary or other crimes, but just went in and grabbed her from her bath.

I haven't heard any more about the little girl apparently taken from her (first floor) bedroom by some nutter who decided to climb up, wrap her in her bedsheet and chuck her out of the first-floor balcony door (left open due to the summer heatwave). She was carried off, but managed to scream and was found in a neighbour's garden. Unless the story has entirely changed since then.

a one off in the annals of thousands...for reasons unknown.....burglars don't abduct kids instead of goods....as a rule.....keep trying to find a reason why mm was "abducted" and with such precision planning akin to a diamond heist......nonsense...oh sorry, forgot you thought it was an opportunistic abductor who just happened to want a telly but thought oh we'll she will do instead, now what do I do with her, I had no plans for this

Night night

[Carana]

a one off in the annals of thousands...for reasons unknown.....burglars don't abduct kids instead of goods....as a rule.....keep trying to find a reason why mm was "abducted" and with such precision planning akin to a diamond heist......nonsense...oh sorry, forgot you thought it was an opportunistic abductor who just happened to want a telly but thought oh we'll she will do instead, now what do I do with her, I had no plans for this

Did Rudi Guedes enter that flat in Perugia with the intention of raping and killing poor Meredith? Or was his original intention to nick the rent money?

[Mr Gray]

a one off in the annals of thousands...for reasons unknown.....burglars don't abduct kids instead of goods....as a rule.....keep trying to find a reason why mm was "abducted" and with such precision planning akin to a diamond heist......nonsense...oh sorry, forgot you thought it was an opportunistic abductor who just happened to want a telly but thought oh we'll she will do instead, now what do I do with her, I had no plans for this

what you are proving is why should the mccanns fear Maddie might be abducted...it just could not possibly happen. ...but as katy hopkins believes...it has

[slartibartfast]

a one off in the annals of thousands...for reasons unknown.....burglars don't abduct kids instead of goods....as a rule.....keep trying to find a reason why mm was "abducted" and with such precision planning akin to a diamond heist......nonsense...oh sorry, forgot you thought it was an opportunistic abductor who just happened to want a telly but thought oh we'll she will do instead, now what do I do with her, I had no plans for this

Night night

I could understand an abductor pretending to be a burglar if caught but not a burglar deciding to abduct a child.

[Alice Purjorick]

a one off in the annals of thousands...for reasons unknown.....burglars don't abduct kids instead of goods....as a rule.....keep trying to find a reason why mm was "abducted" and with such precision planning akin to a diamond heist......nonsense...oh sorry, forgot you thought it was an opportunistic abductor who just happened to want a telly but thought oh we'll she will do instead, now what do I do with her, I had no plans for this

Night night

Mob handed too. A driver, two "snatchers" and a couple of look out men!

[Alfred R Jones]

Mob handed too. A driver, two "snatchers" and a couple of look out men!

I thought this thread was about Slarti's Simple Solution?