Does the European Court of Human Rights, Indeed, Beckon?

[stephen25000]

They have grounds...if you don't understand  fair enough.

Give your rationale.

[Mr Gray]

Give your rationale.

Already have done...in detail and discussed in detail

[stephen25000]

Already have done...in detail and discussed in detail

Well that was a complete failure then.

..and if you seriously imagine the mccanns can take the Portuguese state to the ECHR , have the case accepted, and win.

Well to use a well worn phrase, that will be when hell freezes over.

[Mr Gray]

Well that was a complete failure then.

..and if you seriously imagine the mccanns can take the Portuguese state to the ECHR , have the case accepted, and win.

Well to use a well worn phrase, that will be when hell freezes over.

I think all those things are possible...apart from hell ...

[stephen25000]

I think all those things are possible...apart from hell ...

Of course dave.

I leave you to your fantasies.

[Mr Gray]

Of course dave.

I leave you to your fantasies.

and I leave you to yours

[sadie]

So, on what grounds could the mccanns take the Portuguese state to the ECHR's Sadie ?

Madeleine was and has been extensively searched for, with zero results.

Don't bother with your sightings in Morocco again, they have been dismissed by the Police.

The mccanns human rights are not an issue.

They pursued cases in Portugal, had decisions in their favour, and which were then overturned on appeal.

ORLY ?   

[stephen25000]

ORLY ?   

I am afraid Sadie, you are no detective.

You have been told again and again, not just by me, the police have already dismissed those sightings. 

[stephen25000]

and I leave you to yours

I don't have fantasies about this case, unlike some I could mention.

[G-Unit]

Rubbish ... so you think that Justice for Madeleine and her family is not important?

If [and I mean if] the McCann's go to the ECHR there will be no claim on Madeleine's behalf because there are no grounds. I can't see how Portugal has denied her any of her human rights.

[stephen25000]

If [and I mean if] the McCann's go to the ECHR there will be no claim on Madeleine's behalf because there are no grounds. I can't see how Portugal has denied her any of her human rights.

Actually, it would be pure drivel for the mccanns to say their human rights were abused.

Especially bearing in mind what they did to trigger this case.

[ferryman]

If [and I mean if] the McCann's go to the ECHR there will be no claim on Madeleine's behalf because there are no grounds. I can't see how Portugal has denied her any of her human rights.

The Portuguese Supreme Court might, yet, right the wrong of this ridiculous appeal court ruling, which would annul the ECHR.

But if it goes to the ECHR, the basis is unlikely to be a direct appeal against the decision; rather an appeal (on grounds of human rights) that a book is freely available for sale accusing the McCanns of dreadful crimes when Portuguese due-process could find find no evidence of any wrong-doing by either McCann (Kate or Gerry).

[Alice Purjorick]

The Portuguese Supreme Court might, yet, right the wrong of this ridiculous appeal court ruling, which would annul the ECHR.

But if it goes to the ECHR, the basis is unlikely to be a direct appeal against the decision; rather an appeal (on grounds of human rights) that a book is freely available for sale accusing the McCanns of dreadful crimes when Portuguese due-process could find find no evidence of any wrong-doing by either McCann (Kate or Gerry).

You have used the wrong word. The ECHR cannot overrule the final judgement mad by a member state of the Council of Europe. It may however impose a fine but even then the ECHR has no power of enforcement.

[ferryman]

You have used the wrong word. The ECHR cannot overrule the final judgement mad by a member state of the Council of Europe. It may however impose a fine but even then the ECHR has no power of enforcement.

Conceded.

Won't.

[ferryman]

I'm really not sure about the (ultimate) wisdom of the McCanns taking the case to the ECHR, because if the Portuguese judiciary, in its (ultimate) un-wisdom decides Amaral's work of traducement and lies should stand, Amaral's assets will be unfrozen by the Portuguese courts and the only thing left for the McCanns to fight for will be a point of principle.

They might judge that that (alone) would make it worthwhile.

I guess that's their call.