The Sun claims Madeleine McCann was kidnapped during a botched burglary.

[Brietta]

Knowing burglaries happened elsewhere even without forensics or witnesses is no evidence one happened in 5a, so it remains a theory at best, how can it be anything else, notwithstanding  how a petty burglary turned into the chld abduction of the century

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Assertions by the police that the crime had been a case of opportunistic abduction from the home by a stranger were initially met with scepticism, given the seemingly unbelievable nature of the crime.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willington_Quay_child_abduction_case

[pegasus]

Some people just dont answer it, they peek through the curtains, or not, think I dont know them, or dont want to onow who it is as Im not expecting anyone, its late, think I will ignore..so any burglar assuming no one is in is taking a risk of being seen/identified/accosted

Thousands of burglars every year doublecheck everyone is out by knocking/ringing at the door.
I've seen police advice that a child left home alone should be instructed to not answer the door but, and this is important, to make noise making it very clear that not everyone is out. (Before anyone accuses the police of criminal negligence please note they were talking about much older children. not toddlers).

[mercury]

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Assertions by the police that the crime had been a case of opportunistic abduction from the home by a stranger were initially met with scepticism, given the seemingly unbelievable nature of the crime.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willington_Quay_child_abduction_case

I can read without my eyes being bombarded by large bold text, if you dont mind

As i said because something has happened before is no evidence it did in this case, so, remains, a theory

[mercury]

Thousands of burglars every year doublecheck everyone is out by knocking/ringing at the door.
I've seen police advice that a child left home alone should be instructed to not answer the door but, and this is important, to make noise making it very clear that not everyone is out. (Before anyone accuses the police of criminal negligence please note they were talking about much older children. not toddlers).

But wheres the evidence? Pegasus?

[pegasus]

But wheres the evidence? Pegasus?

The evidence of a burglary attempt is the open window and shutter.
The evidence that the burglary was at its beginning interrupted by a person is the fact that there were people inside the room.

[mercury]

The evidence of a burglary attempt is the open window and shutter.
The evidence that the burglary was at its beginning interrupted by a person is the fact that there were people inside the room.

Your evidence is from a prior arguido so problematic to start with
Your second assertion remains as evidence in a  theory and not evidence as such
In fact i have seen no "real "evidence from you for this theory
The only real evidence is three undentied fingerprnts on the shutters which may have been from a stranger but  may have been from three of the tapas nine who said they touched the outside shutters

[mercury]

I am also confused as to whether this botched burglary theory  led to the child still being in 5a durng police searches or was she abducted straightaway after burglary

Too many theories being promted with no evidence
Soz

There is one true fact..its a dogs dinner

[pegasus]

Your evidence is from a prior arguido so problematic to start with
Your second assertion remains as evidence in a  theory and not evidence as such
In fact i have seen no "real "evidence from you for this theory
The only real evidence is three undentied fingerprnts on the shutters which may have been from a stranger but  may have been from three of the tapas nine who said they touched the outside shutters

The witness states clearly that the window and shutter were open.
People assumed she was lying because there was no damage to the window or shutter.
But now we know that they can be opened from outside without damage.
Therefore she is telling the truth.

[mercury]

The witness states clearly that the window and shutter were open.
People assumed she was lying because there was no damage to the window or shutter.
But now we know that they can be opened from outside without damage.
Therefore she is telling the truth.

Assumptions and bad logic Im  afraid, not a good mix, off >>>>

[pegasus]

Assumptions and bad logic Im  afraid, not a good mix, off >>>>

Heri has demonstrated how the window and shutter can be opened from outside without damage.
So why do you doubt the witness's veracity Merc?

[G-Unit]

Because I researched it GUnit - it is very common for burglars to knock/ring at the door first.
Here is just one example written by a professional burglar
"I’ll knock on your door to see if anyone is home"
For hundreds of sources confirming this google: burglar knock on door

Which doesn't mean it happened here, it means it has happened elsewhere. You are suggesting that someone walked past the Oldfield's dark quiet and shuttered apartment to knock on the McCann's door. Why not try the Oldfield's?

[stephen25000]

The witness states clearly that the window and shutter were open.
People assumed she was lying because there was no damage to the window or shutter.
But now we know that they can be opened from outside without damage.
Therefore she is telling the truth.

I am afraid Pegasus, there is no independent verification that the windows or shutter were open/moved before Kate Mccann arrived.

[stephen25000]

there is no proof the mccanns told lies about the apartment being locked or unlocked....no verbatim statements...

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Philomena McCann, Gerry's sister, said on 04 May: "Some people may ask why they left the children alone in the apartment but it was locked and they had a full view of the front door and they were checking every half hour."

[G-Unit]

Heri has demonstrated how the window and shutter can be opened from outside without damage.
So why do you doubt the witness's veracity Merc?

Sorry for butting in, but I demonstrated that your truthful witness gave contradictory statements to the PJ and in interviews about what Madeleine said on 3rd May. Basing your theory on the testimony of this witness is a mistake imo. She has a very poor memory.

She took a bath, did her make-up and drank a glass of New Zealand wine with her husband. Just after 8.30pm, the interviewee and her husband, after checking on their children, joined the other adults of the group at the "TAPAS" restaurant, about 50 metres away, where they had dinner.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm

While the children were eating and looking at some books, Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

[faithlilly]

The witness states clearly that the window and shutter were open.
People assumed she was lying because there was no damage to the window or shutter.
But now we know that they can be opened from outside without damage.
Therefore she is telling the truth.

And Diane Webster's claim that she could not raise the shutter without it buckling or the film crew who tried to open the window and damaged it. What of that evidence ?