"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[Mr Gray]

You have consistently argued that OG have, in your opinion, investigated the McCanns and ruled them out. The evidence you have used to support your opinion is Redwood's declaration that the McCanns were not suspects. Are you now denying that you have said that?

I have argued they have been interviewed...we will come to "investigated" next...do you still deny that they HAVE been interviewed and had statements taken as others have claimed..you obviously cannot now because as I have repeatedly claimed it is ridiculous to suggest the McCanns have not been interviewed

[Mr Gray]

So I would say it is established by simple logic that the McCanns have been interviewed by SY.....that SY would want a full and detailed account of that night in order to investigate the abduction...every detail they could remember...established by simple logic

[G-Unit]

I have argued they have been interviewed...we will come to "investigated" next...do you still deny that they HAVE been interviewed and had statements taken as others have claimed..you obviously cannot now because as I have repeatedly claimed it is ridiculous to suggest the McCanns have not been interviewed

No, no, no! Stop changing the subject. I have never been asked if I think that the parents were interviewed about an abduction, I have never discussed that possibility and I have never given my opinion on that.

You have repeatedly argued that the parents have been investigated by OG and ruled out. True or false?

[Mr Gray]

No, no, no! Stop changing the subject. I have never been asked if I think that the parents were interviewed about an abduction, I have never discussed that possibility and I have never given my opinion on that.

You have repeatedly argued that the parents have been investigated by OG and ruled out. True or false?

false.. I have not repeatedly claimed they have been investigated...I have repeatedly claimed they have been interviewed...posters have repeatedly claimed as there is no evidence they have been interviewed ..it is clear they have been interviewed

[slartibartfast]

No, no, no! Stop changing the subject. I have never been asked if I think that the parents were interviewed about an abduction, I have never discussed that possibility and I have never given my opinion on that.

You have repeatedly argued that the parents have been investigated by OG and ruled out. True or false?

I think you are wasting your time, I am sure that sooner or later, chatted to will be equated to interviewed.

[ShiningInLuz]

Yes I want to establish the thoughts on whether the Mccanns have been interviwed by Grange...I have said they woukld have been...I don't think i have used the word investigated......I have used interviewed...sil posted

I note you are still supplying speculation.  Along the lines that the OG has sat down with the McCanns.  Anything to support this?

Absolutely anything?


I would say there is a lot to support that SY have sat down....have gone through their account of that night. How
else could they investigate an abduction. So do we now have consensus that the McCanns have been interviewed by SY...

More speculation.  No evidence.  Absolutely nothing to support your speculation, despite multiple requests for it.

Stop posting your preferred option as fact, when you don't have a jot of evidence to support it.

[Mr Gray]

I think you are wasting your time, I am sure that sooner or later, chatted to will be equated to interviewed.

I have already used the word interviewed...SY would want proper statements they could rely on...may well be recorded. They would want every detail and I'm sure the McCanns would want to help them

[Mr Gray]

More speculation.  No evidence.  Absolutely nothing to support your speculation, despite multiple requests for it.

Stop posting your preferred option as fact, when you don't have a jot of evidence to support it.

you have said you suspect the McCanns. When I asked for evidence you do not have it...that is speculation.
Most of this forum is speculation yet you only criticise me...that is bias..You claimed you were unbiased.

Now back on track...are you really suggesting that the McCanns have not been interviewed by SY..that is  a  ridiculous suggestion . In order to investigate the abduction SY would need all the accurate information they could get from the McCanns..They could not rely on the twice translated non verbatim statements.

So have SY interviewed the last known people to see maddie alive...logic says they have...you logic is looking decidedly shaky

[ShiningInLuz]

You already have spouted off and said you suspect the McCanns ...so obvioulsly without evidence...mere speculation. I guarantee your practical test willl prove nothing but will be delighted if you prove me wrong

I have said I had worked out a way that the McCanns could have done it, which is not equivalent to 'I suspect the McCanns'.  I am not restricted to working as per OG's remit.

And clearly I do not have access to the T9 to clarify many things in their statements that I find odd.

[Mr Gray]

I have said I had worked out a way that the McCanns could have done it, which is not equivalent to 'I suspect the McCanns'.  I am not restricted to working as per OG's remit.

And clearly I do not have access to the T9 to clarify many things in their statements that I find odd.

You stated something like 2 out of 40...bizarre maths...as the probability that the mccanns were involved..that is suspecting them. 

[Mr Gray]

I have said I had worked out a way that the McCanns could have done it, which is not equivalent to 'I suspect the McCanns'.  I am not restricted to working as per OG's remit.

And clearly I do not have access to the T9 to clarify many things in their statements that I find odd.

snipped from one of your posts..easily found by a search...

The probability of the McCanns being involved and beating the Eddie Challenge is not zero.

you have stated that the Mccanns could be involved

[ShiningInLuz]

you have said you suspect the McCanns. When I asked for evidence you do not have it...that is speculation.
Most of this forum is speculation yet you only criticise me...that is bias..You claimed you were unbiased.

Now back on track...are you really suggesting that the McCanns have not been interviewed by SY..that is  a  ridiculous suggestion . In order to investigate the abduction SY would need all the accurate information they could get from the McCanns..They could not rely on the twice translated non verbatim statements.

So have SY interviewed the last known people to see maddie alive...logic says they have...you logic is looking decidedly shaky

Please do not mis-quote my position on the case.  I made it clear I think there are multiple options, and that there is insufficient evidence to rule these out.

As to my bias, I happen to be biased against opinion posted as fact.  A while back you posted that the forum had agreed the McCanns had been interviewed, when it is crystal clear there is no such agreement.

Stop posting your opinion as fact and I will be happy to not respond to you.

It may or may not be significant, but I note other supporters are not insisting such interviews definitely have occurred, as opposed to should have occurred or some other similar option.  I am therefore of the opinion that while the supporters think interviews make sense, they cannot actually supply evidence of them, and if they are of that opinion, then it is an opinion I share.

As to any process SY might or might not have gone through to conduct these speculated interviews, that is yet more speculation.

[ShiningInLuz]

I have already used the word interviewed...SY would want proper statements they could rely on...may well be recorded. They would want every detail and I'm sure the McCanns would want to help them

Speculation in bold.  All IYO, given that you cannot provide evidence of any part of it.

[ShiningInLuz]

snipped from one of your posts..easily found by a search...

The probability of the McCanns being involved and beating the Eddie Challenge is not zero.

you have stated that the Mccanns could be involved

And you are removing context, which is that I am considering a range of options, of which this is but one, and a very minor one at that.

And that has no bearing on whether the McCanns have been interviewed or not, or how the remit of OG came about, so you are deflecting.

Do you, or do you not, have any evidence that such interviews were carried out?

[Brietta]

Please do not mis-quote my position on the case.  I made it clear I think there are multiple options, and that there is insufficient evidence to rule these out.

As to my bias, I happen to be biased against opinion posted as fact.  A while back you posted that the forum had agreed the McCanns had been interviewed, when it is crystal clear there is no such agreement.

Stop posting your opinion as fact and I will be happy to not respond to you.

It may or may not be significant, but I note other supporters are not insisting such interviews definitely have occurred, as opposed to should have occurred or some other similar option.  I am therefore of the opinion that while the supporters think interviews make sense, they cannot actually supply evidence of them, and if they are of that opinion, then it is an opinion I share.

As to any process SY might or might not have gone through to conduct these speculated interviews, that is yet more speculation.

I am convinced that the initial diligence carried out by Scotland Yard would have been to interview the McCanns ... it would have been remiss and stupid of them not to have done so.

I think it may have been part of the scoping exercise but it may have been as part of the review.  I do not think they would have recommended reopening Madeleine's case without having done so.

The fact there is no chapter and verse about who they did and who they did not interview does not preclude that interviews took place.
Since there is no documentation to that effect we must simply 'presume' ... but I think it is a fairly educated presumption.