"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[Eleanor]

I beg to differ. Doesn't look as if a child has been sleeping in that bed.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/apartment-madeleine-mccann-vanished-bought-9907370

Some people sleep more tidily than others.

[jassi]

Maybe they are both wrong.

Yeah, quite possibly   

[Miss Taken Identity]

Maybe they are both wrong.

Yeah, quite possibly   

Easily done...

[jassi]

What's it called again? - false memory   

[kizzy]

But he had been there in the meantime, so Kate wouldn't know who moved it.

If you want my opinion, which I doubt, then I think someone went into the apartment before Gerry's 9pm check.  Gerry re positioned the door, not paying a lot of attention to why the door had moved, and then someone exited the bedroom with Madeleine after Gerry left, which was how Matt found it, and so did Kate.
This why some of us think that someone was in there when Gerry checked.

wasn't it matt oldfield who checked at nine.

[Eleanor]

wasn't it matt oldfield who checked at nine.

From outside, and then again at 9.30 from inside.

[Lace]

I am analysing the statements as said by the parents  your opinion is way off the mark you are trying to put words into peoples heads.

" they left it open the same way as they would at home IMO" No evidence of this or mentioned by the parents this was what they did.

AND
"well she could have come out of the covers because she was too warm,"
You are offering an excuse on behalf of the parents-because you don't know this , the mother said it was a cold night .

AND
you want us to believe a child slept in the EXACT same position having let herself out of the covers as both parents left her?

We have already established that both parents did not put Maddie to bed as a couple- they have told us this. Gerry saying she was on top where he left her as it was a warm night- Kate saying she was left under the covers all snug as it  was a cold night...

Can I just say,   that perhaps when Kate snuggled Madeleine into bed,  she was under the cover,   then,  when Gerry looked in to check before they went out she had thrown the cover off herself.   Is that reasonable to you?  All in my opinion.

The way they left the door a certain way,  and Kate and Gerry mentioned it wasn't how THEY would leave it,  would in my opinion be the way in which they would leave the door at home.

By the way,  I'm not giving excuses for Kate and Gerry at all,  just giving another opinion,  it is called debate.

[Lace]

Don't think that stands scrutiny.
It was a cold night and bedcloths were said to be undisturbed when police arrived.
A child wriggling out wouldn't leave bedclothes undisturbed
IMO

Madeleine was asleep on her side,  it would only take one leg to push the cover off,  not a wriggle.

[jassi]

Madeleine was asleep on her side,  it would only take one leg to push the cover off,  not a wriggle.

Cite for that, please, as I've never read that. 

Children do move and turn in bed - unless they are dead.

[kizzy]

Matthew -   
At around 9.25pm, the interviewee went into his apartment and Madeleine's apartment to check on the children. He states that the door of the bedroom that was occupied by Madeleine and the twins, was open and that there was enough light in the bedroom for him to see the twins in their cots. That he couldn't see the bed occupied by Madeleine, but as it was all quiet, he deduced that she was sleeping. That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the Master' bedroom window were open without knowing if the window was also open.

He doesn't mention that he shut the door.

So by this account the shutters were open for the light to shine through, abductor gone, so why didn't the door slam or the curtains blow.

[Lace]

So by this account the shutters were open for the light to shine through, abductor gone, so why didn't the door slam or the curtains blow.

Maybe the curtains did blow,  but it would take someone to put the door in a certain position as Kate did for it to slam.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Can I just say,   that perhaps when Kate snuggled Madeleine into bed,  she was under the cover,   then,  when Gerry looked in to check before they went out she had thrown the cover off herself.   Is that reasonable to you?  All in my opinion.

The way they left the door a certain way,  and Kate and Gerry mentioned it wasn't how THEY would leave it,  would in my opinion be the way in which they would leave the door at home.

By the way,  I'm not giving excuses for Kate and Gerry at all,  just giving another opinion,  it is called debate.

Lace, with all due respect to you. You are trying to add bits on to protect the parents for some strange reason. Read what they say in respect to Maddie being put to bed that night. They do not mention anything you offer as an explanation. I am talking facts,not my opinion.

I really do not understand why supporters find it necessary to offer up excuses by way of IMO.

[faithlilly]

Can I just say,   that perhaps when Kate snuggled Madeleine into bed,  she was under the cover,   then,  when Gerry looked in to check before they went out she had thrown the cover off herself.   Is that reasonable to you?  All in my opinion.

The way they left the door a certain way,  and Kate and Gerry mentioned it wasn't how THEY would leave it,  would in my opinion be the way in which they would leave the door at home.

By the way,  I'm not giving excuses for Kate and Gerry at all,  just giving another opinion,  it is called debate.

But yet again you are finding excuses for yet another anomaly. Can't you see a pattern forming ?

[Lace]

Lace, with all due respect to you. You are trying to add bits on to protect the parents for some strange reason. Read what they say in respect to Maddie being put to bed that night. They do not mention anything you offer as an explanation. I am talking facts,not my opinion.

I really do not understand why supporters find it necessary to offer up excuses by way of IMO.

No they don't mention anything I offer,   Kate says Madeleine was under the cover when she tucked her in,  Gerry says Madeleine was on top of the cover when he checked her,   it is obvious to anyone, that Madeleine had pushed the cover off,  but no, the parents are both lying.   What I don't understand is why people have to make out the McCann's are lying in order to justify what they think happened to Madeleine.

[Lace]

But yet again you are finding excuses for yet another anomaly. Can't you see a pattern forming ?

Not finding excuses,  just stating what I believe probably happened,  though nothing will change your mind that the McCann's must have been lying.