"We must reconstruct Maddie’s fateful night" says former Portuguese police chief.

[Lace]

Cite for that, please, as I've never read that. 

Children do move and turn in bed - unless they are dead.

After Gerry arrived the children went to wash their teeth and she then read them another story, this time all four of them sitting on Madeleine's bed. She thinks that Gerry entered the room, but does not recall him sitting on the bed. During the story Madeleine was lying on the pillow, alert and paying attention to the story. After both twins kissed Madeleine, she thinks that Gerry was in the room, and each (Kate and Gerry) placed a twin in its crib at the same time, between Madeleine's bed and the bed next to the window. They also kissed Madeleine, who was lying down. She was under the covers, she thinks because she was a bit cold. She normally clutched the soft toy and if she wasn't holding it then it was next to her, on the left. She remained lying down on her left side, with the soft toy and a pink blanket, to cover her. The twins were laid down on their backs, covered with open weave blankets. She says that she doesn't know if the children were in the same positions when they left the apartment.


Note -  lying down on her left side.

[faithlilly]

Not finding excuses,  just stating what I believe probably happened,  though nothing will change your mind that the McCann's must have been lying.

Let's hope OG give them the same benefit of the doubt as you Lace eh 

[jassi]

After Gerry arrived the children went to wash their teeth and she then read them another story, this time all four of them sitting on Madeleine's bed. She thinks that Gerry entered the room, but does not recall him sitting on the bed. During the story Madeleine was lying on the pillow, alert and paying attention to the story. After both twins kissed Madeleine, she thinks that Gerry was in the room, and each (Kate and Gerry) placed a twin in its crib at the same time, between Madeleine's bed and the bed next to the window. They also kissed Madeleine, who was lying down. She was under the covers, she thinks because she was a bit cold. She normally clutched the soft toy and if she wasn't holding it then it was next to her, on the left. She remained lying down on her left side, with the soft toy and a pink blanket, to cover her. The twins were laid down on their backs, covered with open weave blankets. She says that she doesn't know if the children were in the same positions when they left the apartment.


Note -  lying down on her left side.

Thank you.  Where is that from, as you don't say

[kizzy]

Maybe the curtains did blow,  but it would take someone to put the door in a certain position as Kate did for it to slam.

But surely, he should have been disturbed if the curtains were wafting in the wind , like k mccann described

[Lace]

Let's hope OG give them the same benefit of the doubt as you Lace eh 

No doubt they did,   it's ridiculous to suggest that because Madeleine was on top of the cover when Gerry checked on her and Kate said Madeleine was under the cover when she put her to bed,  they must be lying.   Surely they would have got their stories right don't you think? 

[Lace]

But surely, he should have been disturbed if the curtains were wafting in the wind , like k mccann described

Who should be disturbed?

[Lace]

Thank you.  Where is that from, as you don't say

Kate's statement.

[Miss Taken Identity]

"By the way,  I'm not giving excuses for Kate and Gerry at all,  just giving another opinion,  it is called debate."

Who are you debating with on this matter? I have not given my opinion as to why they gave different versions of their account- I am telling it like it is. You are putting words into their mouths as if you speak on their behalf filling in the gaps, can you not see this is what you are doing? if not then look again, if so, then I would ask why you would do this.
A very young child disappeared, who knows what evil she was/still is being subjected to, or by whom. We must remember this at all times.

[faithlilly]

No doubt they did,   it's ridiculous to suggest that because Madeleine was on top of the cover when Gerry checked on her and Kate said Madeleine was under the cover when she put her to bed,  they must be lying.   Surely they would have got their stories right don't you think?

Not necessarily. They had bigger fish to fry I'd expect.

[kizzy]

Who should be disturbed?

Sorry lace, i should have perturbed.

[Eleanor]

Lace, with all due respect to you. You are trying to add bits on to protect the parents for some strange reason. Read what they say in respect to Maddie being put to bed that night. They do not mention anything you offer as an explanation. I am talking facts,not my opinion.

I really do not understand why supporters find it necessary to offer up excuses by way of IMO.

"With due respect" isn't good enough.  You are accusing Lace of distorting for her own ends.  This is not acceptable.  Please do not do this again.

[Eleanor]

Okay.  I have had enough of Libellous Innuendo.  I will be Deleting anything further in this vein.

[faithlilly]

Okay.  I have had enough of Libellous Innuendo.  I will be Deleting anything further in this vein.

With the greatest respect you do not have enough knowledge of what legally constitutes libel to make that decision. Now if you said I'm deleting posts because I believe them to be they are libellous then you'd be nearer the mark.

Don't mention it. Just here to help.

[Eleanor]

With the greatest respect you do not have enough knowledge of what legally constitutes libel to make that decision. Now if you said I'm deleting posts because I believe them to be they are libellous then you'd be nearer the mark.

Don't mention it. Just here to help.

I will go with your definition of what I should have said.  I will still be Deleting.

[Miss Taken Identity]

"With due respect" isn't good enough.  You are accusing Lace of distorting for her own ends.  This is not acceptable.  Please do not do this again.

That is not what I am doing at all. You are merely looking for a reason to ban me- so go ahead.

 I am pointing out that the McCanns gave different versions of when they last saw Maddie before her disappearance. Lace is claiming she is debating. I am asking what is the debate part as I have not added my opinion to anything. Lace is adding bits on to a statement which cannot be evidenced that her version is what  really happened. I find that very interesting. I also find it interesting that when the non believers of abduction offer opinions they are asked to provide evidence...  Just saying. AND nothing I have said is libellous in any way shape or form!

I was being respectful in my disagreement with Lace's theory.